Outdoor Retailer Summer Market 2015 Wrap-Up
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Aug 18, 2015 at 9:39 pm #1331809Stephanie JordanSpectator
@maiaLocale: Rocky Mountains
Companion forum thread to:Aug 19, 2015 at 10:05 am #2221880Brad ClarkeBPL Member
@ekralcbLocale: Eastern Ontario
Any photos of the upcoming GSI canister stoves?
Saw a small photo on the Deseret News site last night, but couldn't see much details.
From what I could see, they had a similar appearance to some Kovea stoves, but not exact matches.Aug 19, 2015 at 11:18 am #2221898J-LBPL Member
At 21oz and roughly 9' x 8', that Nemo Apollo 3P pyramid tarp could be a good alternative to a lot of the cottage mids. That's a lot of space for the weight
Also, the updated SMD Fusion packs look niceAug 19, 2015 at 2:23 pm #2221922Luke SchmidtBPL Member
I tried a prototype of that Kokepelli packraft at the APA Roundup, bought it and took it to Canada for a big trip. I liked what I saw.
1. The raft holds air better then Alpackas and can get very stiff which is nice for punching through whitewater.
2. The current deck/skirt combo is okay but the version coming out in 2016 is VERY good.
3. The two chamber setup saved my raft and gear when the front chamber was cut and the raft went on a 5-6 mile Class 4 run without me (long story). The short story is it would be hard to convince me to go back to a single chamber boat for a long wilderness trip. Next year I expect to be paddling either my repaired prototype or the updated 2016 version.
4. The tubes on the Kokepelli are a bit smaller then Alpackas, I think 11 inches versus 12. It doesn't seem like much but it is different. The boat was easier to get back into after I tipped over. It also is less affected by wind IMHO (I paddled it down a rather long lake in B.C). Waves break over the boat more but with a good spray deck that is not a problem, except in some cases when they push the front down in big whitewater. My understanding is they plan on turning the bow up a bit more in order to solve this problem (it didn't affect me or my friend who also paddled a Nirvana through Class 4 water).
5. The one way "Boston" valve is really nice for inflating the boat.
Bottom line is I think Alpacka is about to have some real competition. Other plans I've heard discussed but not officially announced are for a bare bones budget packraft which should be good for people looking to enter the sport for the first time.Aug 19, 2015 at 5:35 pm #2221948Will RietveldBPL Member
@williwabbitLocale: Southwest Colorado
Hi Brad, the new GSI Pinnacle canister fuel stoves and windscreens are covered in another OR coverage article I wrote for the Gossamer Gear Blog. Go to http://gossamergear.com/wp/coverage-summer-2015-outdoor-retailer-lightweight-and-ultralight-backpackers.Aug 19, 2015 at 8:43 pm #2221985Dylan AtkinsonBPL Member
Link not working for anyone else?Aug 19, 2015 at 9:05 pm #2221990Bob BankheadBPL Member
@wandering_bobLocale: Oregon, USA
Not working for me either.
The page you were after (outdoor-retailer-summer-market-2015-wrap-up-rietveld.html) is lost in the woods.
You may have followed a bad link or mis-typed a URL. That’s most likely what went wrong.Aug 19, 2015 at 9:18 pm #2221992Ken ThompsonBPL Member
@hereLocale: Right there
Link in OP is bad. Accessed the article from elsewhere.Aug 19, 2015 at 9:28 pm #2221993BlackHatGuySpectator
@sleepingLocale: The Cascades
Edit to add: I see what happened. Whoever put the link into this thread at the top used dashes instead of underscores.Aug 21, 2015 at 4:17 pm #2222298Franco DarioliSpectator
@francoLocale: Gauche, CU.
Your link works.Aug 22, 2015 at 1:49 am #2222347
For anybody interested in further details on the Cubic Tech buyout, I put together an interview article that could be of interest to you.
It includes Q&A from a number of cottage owners, as well as from DSM Dyneema representative who was kind enough to answer some questions.Sep 1, 2015 at 1:00 pm #2224396Mitchell EbbottSpectator
Great roundup! I've got to disagree with you here though: "It costs real money to go backpacking. Road bikes, mountain bikes, skis, and canoes are expensive too. But that’s our passion, so go for it; we get to enjoy the wilderness." It costs real money to keep up with trends. But as fun as that is (I fall into it myself), it's still completely possible to have a safe, enjoyable backpacking experience without spending much at all. Even in a world with Pertex and Cuben, Frogg Toggs and blue poly tarps still work just as well as they always have. Like any sport, backpacking has become more gentrified as it gains popularity. But I'd like to think there's still a place on the trail for dirtbaggers.Sep 1, 2015 at 6:27 pm #2224465Will RietveldBPL Member
@williwabbitLocale: Southwest Colorado
Good point Mitchell, there are lots of inexpensive functional alternatives in most categories. And one can purchase used equipment for things like shelter, pack, and sleeping bag to get the lighter stuff. One error: the Osprey UL Stuff Pack has one mesh side pocket. I said it had no side pockets. WillSep 4, 2015 at 4:53 pm #2225025
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