EE Revelation

It's been a while since I used a EE quilt, but did find the draw string got in the way a bit.

Hilarious, I just received my 30 deg Revelation last week and when I pulled it out that was the first thing that I noticed. My 10 deg zpacks has it in the same position. It's mind boggling. Why not put it at the 3 or 9 o'clock position? It's kind of like they way some packs have compression straps over exterior pockets.

I probably won't in fear of ruining it but for a brief moment I considered trying to mod it. Any ideas for an average/acceptable seamstress?

As an active rotisserie style sleeper, draw cords can get in the way wherever they are located, but I did find front and centre to be unusual. Do any quilt manufacturers offer an alternative?

Glad I'm not the only one! Sounds minor, but it really bugs me, and seems like a very obvious design flaw. Otherwise a great piece of equipment.

Drove me nuts for a while as well, so I put a small toggle on my three revelations, a single elastic cord (Zpacks) at the first baffle. Works really well…

Not to be contrarian, but …

I've used quilts about 10 years, MYOG and EE versions and prefer the draw cord in the center.

I placed he draw cord well off center on my first MYOG … for the same concerns as voiced above (to keep it away from my face). But I switch between sleeping on each side and on my back and when sleeping on one side it would be in located by my face anyway and it was behind my back when sleeping on the other side … not convenient.

Center placement completely stopped being an issue for my face when I started keeping the draw string and cord lock "inside" the quilt where it is easier to access for adjustment as well as not being able to dangle in my face.

Note that I never have my face inside the quilt … I use balaclava(s) to insulate my face/head.

I like it in the middle. It seemed unusual at first but it made sense to me after a couple nights.

Reminds me of where the "top" of the quilt is while I roll around.

Nothing worse for me than trying to undo that cord lock in the middle of the night, just to find it somewhere stuck in the small of my back. My other brain has to wake up to solve that problem.

Agree with Jim…center cord placement reveals itself to be the best option for side sleepers. Plus keeping the cord inside the quilt eliminates the problem for sleeping on your back…for me anyway.

I've never actually left the cord outside…guess that comes from many years of mummy bags where the cord(s) are unreachable unless they are inside.

Tim had a thread on here some time ago where he requested suggestions to improve his quilts. This was one request he tried out. If I recall correctly Tim did not like how the offset cord cinched. I think he would still make the modification if you wanted it. Also, like others have said when you pull the cord inside (which is where you pull it when you cinch down the collar) it does not dangle in your face. I have never found it an issue except when I imagined what it would be like before I bought it.

I've got an Enigma and a Prodigy, and a 50 Rev on order.

All I can add is +1 to pulling the cord inside… doesn't bother me a bit.

I like that "rotisserie" description above, lol, which is pretty much the way I sleep. The EE elastic bands and clips are brilliant in that regard; actually far less annoyance sleeping than with my Marmot Plasma bag, which is going "on the block" soon. Lovely (and $$$!) piece of kit, but EE has sold me on quilts.

Couldn't agree more Bob. My WM is now officially relegated to being a loaner for when family want to accompany me. Can't imagine why I would choose it over my EE quilts.

"My 10 deg zpacks has it in the same position. It's mind boggling. Why not put it at the 3 or 9 o'clock position?"

Easier to manufacture a center pull plus offset pulls don't cinch as neatly.

Ryan

I agree, I find the center pull annoying. I wish that the cinch was on the end, it is on the bottom of the quilt. my 2 cents

We don't put the cord in the center because it's easier to build but because we have tried everything over 10 years and nothing works better than cord in the center. Pulling the cord inside is the way to go for both comfort and function.

-Tim

I bow down to the master.

Sorry, not trying to be that guy. Ive tried every variation of this I could think of and always ended up back in the center. For the most variety of sleeping positions, simplicity of adjustment and ease in finding it in the dark the center just works better for more people. I agree that cords in your face is no fun but pulling them inside works great and allows you to adjust without taking your arms out of the warm cocoon.

Gear design is always a balance of compromises and only through MYOG can you put yourself in the position to choose which compromises are best for gear that is just for you. With gear made to serve many types of people, with many styles of use,
choices need to be made to provide good function for all of them, but it may not be the best possible function for some of them.

-Tim

I do have a hybrid quilt/bag coming soon with offset cord to serve in both quilt and bag functions.

If you want your cord offset we can do it, but we won't let you return it because nobody else will want it;)

-Tim

Seriously, I respect your perspective that after 10 years that this is the optimal solution. I am thrilled with my EE quilt and wouldn't never go back to a bag. My EE quilt is one of my favorite piece of gear.