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Patella Tear, Broken Dreams

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PostedJul 13, 2015 at 1:02 pm

I intend to do the PCT trail and maybe the CDT after that, beginning when my son (now 5) turns 18. I intend to invite him to go with me, a father son thru hike.

It looks as though my plans may be screwed and I'm seeking the advice of the forums. I have a minor tear in my patella, diagnosed by an ortho doc. He asked for an MRI (he's as well as me are certain it's patella) but I haven't got it yet. Not looking forward to the $1500 bill for the MRI, I've been putting it off. He told me if the anti-inflammatories did not heal it up that he'd probably want to operate (install screws, etc). The anti-inflammatories didn't work and I still haven't gotten the MRI.

The pain is minor, nothing severe and he said it's probably a minor tear but without an MRI he can't be sure. I have full range of motion, it only hurts when I get into a full squat-like a hiker reliving himself in the woods or how a child defecates when they are very young. Even then, the pain is not sharp, it's minor, just enough to remind me it's still there. This is how it is always, it never really pains me, it just constantly reminds me that it's not healing.

It's been about 8-9 months since the injury. Im holding out for better treatments than going under the knife, I hear great things about other treatments that aren't yet legal here(screw the FDA).

I'm well aware of how the trail can take a minor injury and magnify it, If I one day set foot on the PCR with the intent of completing it, I want to make sure I can.

If anyone can give me advice, I would greatly appreciate it.

Ian BPL Member
PostedJul 13, 2015 at 3:13 pm

Hi Ike,

I have, what PTs and my doc believe to be, an injured PCL. I've not had an MRI, no surgery, and I'm trying to fix it 100% with exercise and physical therapy. Your issue is distinct from mine but I'm seeing progress. Slow progress but progress nonetheless.

I think it's way premature to throw in the towel now. The laziest of googling will reveal that people hike long trails after having their knees replaced. Not ideal but it happens. Also, read Grandma Gatewood to get your mindset right. If she can do it, why can't you? How about all those NFL players returning to play football after being seriously injured? What about Trevor Thomas aka Zero/Zero hiking the AT?

Jennifer Mitol is hiking the CT right now, but I'd hit her up with a PM and pick her brain when she returns.

PostedJul 13, 2015 at 3:42 pm

Ike,
I don't know where you are located, so this may be a bit off the wall …

Mayo Clinic looks at many aspects of an injury and the resulting consultation is a group event with a Doc or two, a PT, an Exercise Physio, etc., and you. They discuss everything remotely related to your knee, including your fitness, and potential compliance in PT. All are on salary. There is no incentive to suggest one solution over another.

It's not cheap. But it is thorough and honest.

Twenty years ago I was told by "local" Orthos (plural) that my knees were to old to continue and I needed to dial it back, ie "stop". I have a 10 day 180 mile trip starting the 29th. That will be followed by a BWCA trip (with many greasy portages), followed by a GC hike (or two) in October. All on original equipment.

Do your homework. Lean on the experts. Then You decide the best way to go.

Best of Luck.

Roger Caffin BPL Member
PostedJul 13, 2015 at 3:44 pm

The patella is the small bit of bone otherwise known as the knee-cap. Do you mean the patella tendon going over the patella down to the shin?

Cheers

PostedJul 15, 2015 at 10:51 am

Just to second the idea of going to Mayo to get it checked out.

Don't know what your insurance situation is, but if you want very thorough medical advice with a very high cost to benefit ratio, go to Mayo Clinic.

It is located in Rochester, MN. If you go, you will likely be able to get everything done in a very timely manner. No waiting a month or 6 to get into a specialist.

They get all of the consultations done in a couple of days and then discuss with you the options.

Peace

PostedJul 15, 2015 at 11:22 am

thanks for the encouragement guys, was really floored by this. Will get the MRI soon.

PostedJul 16, 2015 at 12:50 am

I had pateller tendon tear and/or bursitis. I don't really know because I never got an MRI. But, I had similar pain as you do in a squat, it kept me from working for close to 4 months as my job is physical and the injury wasn't healing. It was only getting much much worse. I lost lots of range of motion from the pain at one point. I opted to not get surgury and I am very glad I did. I have pretty much fully recovered. I could totally see myself doing the PCT someday, no worries. From how it sounds by your description, my injury was much worse.

Go to a Sports Medicine Dr. Find yourself a good physical therapist and most importantly, give it some time before making the decision to get surgery.

PostedJul 16, 2015 at 3:00 am

Hi Ike,

I had a full patellar tendon tear 15 years ago after a HS/college competitive running "career". there are no screws in my knee but rather a reattachment using bone calcification. For years after, I struggled with pain as I tried to get back into running. To no avail.

The thing that helped me was intesive strength work. I used the Mountain Athlete leg rehab program to strengthen all the muscles around my weakened knee. (disclosure: nobody paid me to say that)

So conclusion: whether you go the surgery route or not, balancing out the muscles around the knee might go a long way to helping.

Pete

PostedJul 16, 2015 at 7:17 pm

"So conclusion: whether you go the surgery route or not, balancing out the muscles around the knee might go a long way to helping."

+1

Pedestrian BPL Member
PostedJul 16, 2015 at 8:00 pm

+10 to what the above two said.

Surgery is not some miracle cure – I have several friends who've undergone knee and back surgeries for various issues: knee surgery for meniscal tear for example.

They're no better than before surgery, in some cases much worse! So be careful before you elect to go under the knife.

The body has tremendous healing mechanisms; you just need to support those by strengthening etc. First find a good physio who can help you develop an exercise program and then just do it!

Also, just movement helps. If you even just walk progressively longer distances over a period of several weeks, you'll begin to feel things get better.

In addition, pay attention to your diet to reduce the overall levels of inflammation. Most pain is a consequence of inflammation.

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