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Lance M BPL Member
PostedJul 10, 2015 at 4:59 pm

Today I watched the video associated with the campfire permit process. I learned how to pick a safe campfire location in the middle of a pristine meadow, how to clear all the vegetation down to mineral soil throughout a ten foot circle and how to build a nice rock fire ring.

Lance M BPL Member
PostedJul 10, 2015 at 5:28 pm

Thanks Dan. I guess I had a weak moment of sarcasm. I've been dealing with Comcast this afternoon. Oops, more sarcasm. Darn, I hate it when that happens.

Jerry Adams BPL Member
PostedJul 10, 2015 at 6:21 pm

no big deal – no campfires for a couple months

it's too hot and the days are too long anyway

Dan Yeruski BPL Member
PostedJul 12, 2015 at 7:44 am

Additional info:

§261.52 Fire.

When provided by an order, the following are prohibited:

(a) Building, maintaining, attending or using a fire, campfire, or stove fire.

§261.2 Definitions.

Stove fire means a campfire built inside an enclosed stove or grill, a portable brazier, or a pressurized liquid or gas stove, including a space-heating device.

http://cfr.regstoday.com/36cfr261.aspx#36_CFR_261p52

Jerry Adams BPL Member
PostedJul 12, 2015 at 7:51 am

so, there must be times when even canister stoves are prohibited?

Dan Yeruski BPL Member
PostedJul 12, 2015 at 4:40 pm

Jerry, couldn't find anything on total fire bans but found this interesting Colorado info on state parks and how they go along with local county laws. California does the same thing.

Fire Bans & Danger

Information on fire restrictions and bans can change rapidly. The most current information can and should be obtained from your local county or the forest service. Contacts for each county can be found on the Local Info Sources tab. This site is meant to provide the Colorado community with a connection to their local agencies.

If you are visiting a Colorado State Park the fire restrictions will typically mirror those enacted by the county that the park falls within. A list of those restrictions is below.

Map last updated April 9, 2015.



More info from USDA. Read what it says about home made alcohol stovesand solid fuel think(esbit:

Current Campfire Restrictions

July 9, 2015

Continuing hot, dry weather conditions and increasing fire danger have prompted the Okanogan-Wenatchee National Forest to implement a total ban on the use of campfires on the entire forest.

Campfires are not allowed anywhere on the entire national forest, including wilderness areas. The ranger districts closed to campfires are the Cle Elum, Wenatchee River, Entiat, Chelan, Naches, Methow Valley and Tonasket Ranger Districts.

A campfire restriction means that wood and charcoal fires are not allowed. Pressurized liquid gas stoves are still allowed. Briquette fires are not allowed.

“Fuel conditions are approaching extreme values and there are a number of large fires in the region,” said Deputy Fire Staff for Operations Matt Castle. “We want to minimize the chance of new fire starts in order to keep the public safe. This also puts us in line with other jurisdictions in the area that have already banned campfires.”

Initial campfire restrictions on the Okanogan-Wenatchee NF were implemented June 12. They were expanded on June 17 and again on June 23.

Forest visitors should always check to see what restrictions are in place before traveling to the national forest. Contact any Okanogan-Wenatchee NF office for up-to-date campfire restriction information.

Chelan, Entiat, Wenatchee River Ranger Districts Campfire Restriction Order

Cle Elum Ranger District Campfire Restriction Order

Naches, Methow Valley, Tonasket Ranger Districts Campfire Restriction Order

Wilderness area restrictions that are always in place are noted below.

The following Wilderness restrictions for campfires are always in place

Campfires are NOT allowed:
Above 5,000 feet elevation in the Alpine Lakes Wilderness on the Wenatchee National Forest
Within ½ mile of the following lakes in the Alpine Lakes Wilderness area on Wenatchee River Ranger District: Hope Lake, Josephine Lake, Leland Lake, Little Eightmile Lake, Mig Lake, Nada Lake, Swimming Deer Lake, Square Lake, Trout Lake, Wolverine Lake, Upper and Lower Grace Lakes, Lake Donald, Loch Eileen, Lake Ethel, Lake Julius, Lake Susan Jane.
Within ½ mile of the following lakes in the Alpine Lakes Wilderness area on the Cle Elum Ranger District: Rachel Lake, Upper Park Lake (essentially the whole basin), Glacier Lake, Spectacle Lake, Ivanhoe Lake, Shovel Lake, Lake Rebecca/Rowena, Deep Lake
Within ÂĽ mile of the following lakes in the Henry M. Jackson Wilderness area: Sally Ann, Minotaur, Theseus, Heather, Glasses, and Valhalla.

Approved and Non-approved Fire

The following is a guide to use when campfires are restricted due to high fire danger.
What are fire danger levels?

Approved Fires
Liquid gas stoves or fires. These include: Propane gas camp stoves used for campground or backcountry use.
Propane gas catalytic heaters.
White gas camp stoves with a pump which distribute pressurized gas.
Butane or other pressurized gas canister devices attached to camp stoves.
Propane or white gas lanterns that distribute gas under pressure.

Solid fuel citronella candles in a metal bucket.
Solid fuel candles in a metal or glass container.
Propane barbeque devices that do not utilize solid briquettes for the heat source.
Stove or fireplace fires completely contained within a summer home or residence.
Propane or pressurized white gas warming devices with a shield and base.

Non-approved Fires
Campfires that utilize wood, pressed logs, wood pellets, paper, cardboard, or other solid fuels.
Campfires utilizing solid fuel that do not distribute the flame with a wick.
Briquette fires.
Unapproved fires on a summer home or residence porch or in an uncontained structure.
Unapproved fires in a tent, open garage or carport, fenced area, shelter, porch or other nonstructural surrounding.
“Tikki torches” which utilize liquid fuel.
Alcohol ultralight stoves (these tend to be homemade from aluminum or tin cans and burn rubbing alcohol)
Wood “twig” ultralight stoves
Campfires, lanterns, or stoves that use non-pressurized liquid gas or fuel.
Liquid fuel citronella lanterns or candles.
Solid fuel candles which are not contained within a metal container or glass container.
Liquid fuel stove or lantern fires which utilize a wick to distribute the flame.
Solid fuel fireworks of any kind.
Wood, solid fuel or non-pressurized gas campfires contained by a rock barrier.
Wood, solid fuel or non-pressurized gas campfires contained in an open camp stove, container, or barrel.
Wood, solid fuel or non-pressurized gas campfires contained in a closed camp stove, not in a fully contained residence or summer home

http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/okawen/alerts-notices/?cid=fsbdev3_053600

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Dan Yeruski BPL Member
PostedJul 13, 2015 at 12:25 pm

Look what New Mexico says in their laws about having to be Fire Underwriters approved. States vary so ya gotta know the rules LOL

 photo New Mexico rules_zpsbwdgsqxw.jpg

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