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Kiel Senninger BPL Member
PostedMay 22, 2015 at 12:16 am

I have a pair of older Patagonia cap1 long underwear bottoms that I got for sleeping. My legs would tend to get cold when they touched the inner fabric of my bag so I wanted a layer of something between my skin and the bag. However, the bottoms don't seem to breath well at all. It feels like I wrapped myself up in plastic. I was using a 15* Montbell bag in conditions from low 30s to low 50s, overkill for those temps yes, but even with the bag unzipped and open the bottoms felt like plastic wrap. They fit snugly, but don't seem overly tight. Maybe I should go up a size?

Anyone else ever have this problem or have a suggestion for a better product?

Rick Reno BPL Member
PostedMay 22, 2015 at 4:59 am

Ibex Woolies. They come in 150 and 220 weights. Awesome.

Alex Wallace BPL Member
PostedMay 22, 2015 at 9:40 am

If you decide to stick with synthetic and like the fit of Patagonia, try Cap 2. It's just a tad "heavier" than Cap 1, but breathes so much more because it's an open-knit. It's also softer to the touch.

I hate the feeling of Cap 1 for the same reason you described, "feels like I wrapped myself up in plastic." Cap 2 is a totally different animal.

JCH BPL Member
PostedMay 22, 2015 at 3:23 pm

After many years, many layering system changes, and many $, my current system is finally dialed in.
150 merino base layers for sleeping. Smartwool, Ibex, Icebreaker…whatever (top brand) is on sale and fits you will work just fine. Never could find a synth first layer that worked anywhere near as well as wool. Second layer is Pat Cap4, the new stuff…Powerdry HE. It's an awesome second layer that really extends the range of my quilts.

I've never been able to hike with any sort of base layer on my lower half unless the temps dropped below freezing. The Cap4 top however is a great active layer…when worn without a windbreak layer it's warm without being too warm.

Also totally agree with the comments re: superiority of Cap2 over Cap1.

PostedMay 22, 2015 at 8:58 pm

Cabela's sells several types of polyester long johns.

For winter I carry their "polar weight" longs and the thinnest weight pair for spring and fall use.

I know that wool absorbs and holds moisture much more than polyester. I need fast-drying longies in the morning as I eat and break camp and that's why I wear polyester.

PostedMay 22, 2015 at 9:21 pm

Cap2 for me. I get hot and sweaty from waist to lower thigh when everything else is comfy(have ended up with my baselayer around my knees many times), except with Cap2 or a grid fleece when it's colder. I don't doubt that most any similar weight Powerdry performs about the same, but the Marmot and REI versions I've tried were scratchy/catchy/uncomfortable to me compared to Patagonia's.

Ken Thompson BPL Member
PostedMay 22, 2015 at 9:48 pm

"I hate the feeling of Cap 1 for the same reason you described, "feels like I wrapped myself up in plastic." Cap 2 is a totally different animal."

+2

Allen C BPL Member
PostedMay 22, 2015 at 9:51 pm

Cap2 is the best synthetic long underwear I've found. Wool is probably better (in terms of breathability and overall comfort) as long as you are not sensitive to wool, which I am. Cap2 works well for me.

Cap1 is great for T-shirts due to the smooth face, but I prefer cap2 for pants as it breathes better.

Mark BPL Member
PostedMay 23, 2015 at 1:04 am

Asked a similar question on another forum and was pointed towards these

Rohan Ultra Silver Leggings (80g)
http://www.rohan.co.uk/mens-travel-and-outdoor-base-layer-clothing-Ultra-Silver-Leggings?ocode=03903550

Rohan Ultra Silver T (95g)
http://www.rohan.co.uk/mens-travel-and-outdoor-base-layer-clothing-Ultra-Silver-T-LS?ocode=03904550

Both breath exceptionally well and the material has a soft almost silk like feel to it, wouldn't wear them brush bashing but i'm really really happy with them for sleep/around the camp wear

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