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groundcloths with pyramids

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John Eyles BPL Member
PostedMay 10, 2015 at 9:26 pm

I recently got a MLD SpeedMId (after a lengthy discussion here on "Lightweight Shelter for Two in the Desert"). It's primarily for Grand Canyon and similar use, where it's meant to be set up only on the 10-20% of nights when rain threatens, and only occupied if actually necessary.

So I'm wondering how to work my groundcloth (that we'd be sleeping on in the open, until and if it rains), since the center pole of the 'mid means it's not as simple as just dragging the groundcloth/pads/bags under the shelter. I can think of a few solutions, none seem ideal:

1. At the time I decide to set up the 'mid, resign ourselves to sleeping under it.

2. Use one groundcloth per person, instead of a double-width one.

3. Slit the groundcloth halfway up the longitudinal line, so it an be slipper around the pole.

4. Somehow work the groundcloth under the pole (if we need to retreat to shelter).

5. Carry two groundcloths. We use a polycryo one, so that's only another 3+ oz, and it provides better protection on non-setup nights.

6. Set the pyramid up with two poles; but GF's pole is probably not long enough.

I really have no idea, as my sum total experience with a pyramid is the night on our recent trip when we decided to set it up, and only retreated to it for about 15min for a dawn rainshower; we didn't worry about the groundcloth, since we were already up.

DGoggins BPL Member
PostedMay 10, 2015 at 9:30 pm

I've had no issue with slipping a ground cover under the pole. My groundcovers have a center reinforcement (tape usually) that marks the spot. I just bunch it under to that point, adjust my center pole so its lower and not tight (you are using adjustable poles? Even if you aren't, you can just angle the pole towards you so you can just slip the "back half" of the ground cloth under I). You then just spread out the "back half". Not hard really.

John Eyles BPL Member
PostedMay 10, 2015 at 9:34 pm

Good to know, Dan. Like I said, I have pretty much zero experience with these shelters. Yes, my pole is readily adjustable (heavy but sturdy SherLite, with push-button adjuster).

Dean F. BPL Member
PostedMay 11, 2015 at 12:00 pm

Use bivies?

Otherwise, I find it hard to imagine that you can't pull the pole up a bit and slide a groundcloth under it. Put a square of duct tape to reinforce the spot and mark it for you.

Bob Moulder BPL Member
PostedMay 12, 2015 at 4:14 am

With the Duomid, I really prefer the uncluttered space inside the tent that the inverted V setup provides.

Since there will be 2 of you, perhaps lash your trekking poles together?

However, with the low pitch height and shallow wall angle of the Speedmid, the pole tips might not be able to get good purchase at such an acute angle on rock or sand. And it does complicate the pitching process somewhat.

John Eyles BPL Member
PostedMay 20, 2015 at 2:11 pm

>> Use bivies?

No. Bugs very rare in Grand Canyon, so no real reason. As an aside, I honestly don't understand the point of having a tarp-style shelter (including pyramid) and then put a bivy or inner-tent in it. Seems like it's gonna be just as heavy as a "real" tent, and you might as well bring one of those.

>> … slide a groundcloth under it. Put a square of duct tape to reinforce the spot and mark it for you.

Yeah, or maybe a small strip of duct-tape, so you know which way to orient it (assuming the groundcloth is not square). I'm probably overthinking it (as usual :-) but maybe some other kind of tape would be better ?

John Eyles BPL Member
PostedMay 20, 2015 at 2:12 pm

>> Since there will be 2 of you, perhaps lash your trekking poles together?

I don't think the GF's is long enough.

>> the pole tips might not be able to get good purchase at such an acute angle on rock or sand. And it does complicate the pitching process somewhat.

Good point. And one more thing to remember/forget (two pole adapter, though I guess cord could be used).

Anthony Weston BPL Member
PostedMay 20, 2015 at 8:37 pm

you can buy pole extenders

http://rutalocura.com/Polejack.html

when I had my duomid I had two 16 extenders and used an inverted V with the poles so I had more floor space. It also helped in foul weather when the wind blew hard, it gave the duomid more stability in the wind.

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