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Patagonia Simul Alpine Pants

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Sean Passanisi BPL Member
PostedMay 2, 2015 at 10:20 pm

Hello. I'm in the market for a pair of winter pants. I don't spend much time in the snow. I climbed two peaks while traveling in South America last year and rented pants both times. I'm now planning for a summit attempt up Mt. Shasta this summer and thought it might be time to purchase a proper pair of winter pants. I've taken a pair of Patagonia Rockcraft pants to hell and back (twice), and I'm intrigued by the new Simul Alpine Pants.

Patagonia ambassador Tommy Caldwell has raved about them. At 13.2 oz, the Simul Alpine Pants aren't much heavier than my Rockcrafts that I use year-round, and I'm wondering if they are truly suitable for winter activities. Patagonia also makes a heavier-duty model called the Dual Point Alpine Pants. On the one hand, the lighter-weight Simul Alpine Pants might be perfect since I'm not in the snow too often. On the other hand, perhaps it would be smarter to optimize for something more heavy duty that compliments my 3-season Rockcraft pants.

I've seen reviews on BPL for the Simple Guide and Alpine Guide pants. I think they have been discontinued, but I've included the specs below for comparison. I appreciate any feedback.

New Models:

Simul Alpine Pants:
13.2 oz / 5.2-oz 100% polyester stretch double weave
http://www.patagonia.com/us/product/mens-simul-alpine-pants?p=83060-0

Dual Point Alpine Pants:
19.2 oz (6.8-oz 63% nylon/26% polyester/11% spandex stretch double weave)
http://www.patagonia.com/us/product/mens-dual-point-alpine-pants?p=83050-0&pcc=1128

Old Models:

Simple Guide Pants:
15.2 oz (6.2-oz 91% all-recycled polyester/9% spandex double weave)

Alpine Guide Pants:
19.7 oz (7.1-oz and 9.5 oz Polartec® Power Shield® stretch-woven 46% nylon/46% polyester/8% spandex)

PostedMay 3, 2015 at 2:22 pm

I honestly don't think you could go wrong with either. The lighter version would probably be better for your uses. If you're cold in the lighter ones, just add some tights underneath them. If you're too warm in the heavier version then you can't do anything about it. So the Simuls would be a better choice. Butttt, the Dual Point are a nylon blend rather than pure polyester so they would dry a bit quicker and be a bit more durable. I would choose one of Patagonias options, but do consider other brands. The Marmot Scree Pants are raved about on this site and for good reason. I have a pair and they're great. Worth considering.

Anyway, just my thoughts.

Sam

Sean Passanisi BPL Member
PostedMay 8, 2015 at 8:52 pm

Thanks for the feedback, Sam. The Marmot Scree Pants are about the same weight (6.3 oz/yd) as the Patagonia Guide pants. A Patagonia rep told me that the Simul Pants "are an awesome light to midweight pant, very similar to the old Simple Guide, and great for just about anything – except maybe for hard core alpine climbing. At that point, the Dual Point are the way to go."

Has anyone tried these pants?

brian H BPL Member
PostedMay 8, 2015 at 8:58 pm

you won't need winter pants for a summer climb of Shasta…

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