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bar tack vs looser zigzag

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Jerry Adams BPL Member
PostedApr 11, 2015 at 9:37 am

I asked about this, David said I should test it,… me and my big mouth…

Silnylon, hem it (fold 1/4 inch twice and 1 row of stitches), 1/2 inch grosgrain, on one side do a zigzag with 1 mm stitch length so there was about 2 mm between holes in the silnylon:
zigzag

on the other side do a bar tack with about 1/4 mm stitch length so there was about 1/2 mm between holes in the silnylon:
bar

suspend 25 pound lead brick. didn't break so put a little more weight, maybe 30 pounds, ripped:
rip

The fabric ripped where the bottom edge of the zigzag seam was. I would have expected that the bar tack ripped at that location, not the looser zigzag.

Maybe the fabric just happened to be weaker there?

Maybe with the bar tack, there are more threads that distributed the load.

The close needle holes of the bar tack didn't seem to weaken the fabric which is what I thought.

I guess I'll do bar tacks from now on.

I don't think it made any difference that I sewed through three layers of fabric in the hem, could just as easily have sewed to the fabric through one layer above the hem.

Ken Thompson BPL Member
PostedApr 11, 2015 at 10:36 am

There is an old Jam Ham article here somewhere that delves into this topic.

A quick search of Jay ham reinforcement yielded the article. See folks the BPL search does work just fine at times. Just have task the right question

Here you go Jerry

Jay’s article

Jerry Adams BPL Member
PostedApr 11, 2015 at 12:44 pm

thanks Ken, I remember that

"Bar tack stitches tended to cut and tear the fabric, causing fabric failure."

That's what I thought, but my quick and dirty test was sort of inconsistent

Daryl posted a link to a webbing attachment test. They said that the row of stitches closest to the load carries all the load, so sewing a second row further back doesn't help much. This is sort of inconsistent with Jay's article.

I was using the Gutterman thread from fabric store, and it didn't fail, so, for sewing silnylon, that's sufficient. Maybe heavier thread would be more important for heavier fabric, like a pack.

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