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Morning Dew – Cuben Tarp

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John Konrad BPL Member
PostedMar 5, 2015 at 11:45 am

I was very fortunate to receive an HMG Echo II tarp for my birthday :), my only concern is that I live in an area (Coastal California, just south of Big Sur) known for heavy fog, which often drenches the landscape with a thick layer of morning dew.

The tarp I have did not come with beaks, nor does it have the bug mesh insert. I do have a bivy sack.

My question is… I've read a lot about condensation but there is very little information on dew… is it a major concern with my set up considering the local weather?

Any information, knowledge or experience with regard to dew and open tarps would be appreciated.

Bob Gross BPL Member
PostedMar 5, 2015 at 12:03 pm

Condensation from the person will be on the inside. Dew from the air will be on the outside. In either case, a dry shirtsleeve can be wiped across the surface.

–B.G.–

Dale Wambaugh BPL Member
PostedMar 5, 2015 at 12:14 pm

Dew and condensation are the same thing, be it from your breath or the surrounding air. The air can only support so much moisture at a give temperature and when your shelter fabric falls below that temp, water condenses on it.

There is no escape and it is a fact of life with any single skin shelter. Carry a small sponge or synthetic towel. Of course ventilation helps, but when the fabric hits the dew point, it will condense moisture. IMHO, a full ground cloth prevents moisture from wet ground adding to the problem. This can be very noticeable on grass. Just a simple polycryo sheet will take care of that.

You might find drier conditions away from water, but when the clouds join you, it gets wet. Same issues with rain gear and perspiration. There is no dry air to dry you either!

These are common conditions in the PNW, literally hiking in the clouds.
Independence Lake, Washington Cascades

John Konrad BPL Member
PostedMar 5, 2015 at 10:40 pm

Great info… thanks guys. And I've added a ground tarp to the gear list… now to try the setup out in the "real world".

brian H BPL Member
PostedMar 6, 2015 at 4:43 pm

Outside of the dense fog issue…in most cases, the effects of morning condensation are nullified where you have air movement – breeze, wind, etc. Along the west coast the air is almost always moving at least a little…in cahoots with the waves. Until you move inland or find a serious wind block, you shouldnt see much buildup at all under a flat tarp, unless it has been pitched in a way that somehow traps all air.

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