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PostedFeb 14, 2015 at 6:59 am

So I have decided that I want to get a net tent to go with my flat tarp(s). Reasons being, well, first of all I've never owned one before and want to see what all the hype is about. Lots of people recommend one net tent or another. I am a tarp/bivy guy and suspect that I will continue to be, but have thought that a net tent might be a good arrow to have in my quiver of shelter options as a year long section hiker. I sleep in a fair amount of trail shelters, but at times go off trail, or shelters are full, or I just want to sleep next to a nice spot like a lake or clearing. The bivy works great for cowboy camping and shelters, but as I continue on a trail (Swedish E1 trails) that goes into more isolated terrain, the option to "hang out" in a net tent on extended/isolated trips may be a nice one–and one that has advantages over a standard/hybrid tent. I could still use a net tent in a trail shelter or cowboy camping, for instance.

Anyhow, I have done a lot of searching around and it seems like net tents are a fairly limited when it comes to choice. And note that I am talking about net tents, not net pyramids, as they don't work as well under flat tarps. Finally I want one with a silnylon bottom to be more resistant to abrasion. Though my current bivy has a Cuben floor and I have not had any issues with it, I would add, but I always use a ground cover and I'm thinking about ditching a ground cover altogether if/when I try out a tarp/net tent combo. There is:

MLD Serenity solo – 10 oz
Yama bug net 1 – 10 oz
Bearpaw net tent 1 (30D silnylon) – 11oz
Trekker Tent fabric inner tent – 10.6oz

Anything else I am missing?

I am leaning towards the Yama or TT choices for more coverage from rain spray and wind. I think the TT mostly fabric net tent is an interesting alternative to more full net tent. It would seem to work best with rain and especially wind, maybe even give a slight warmth bump. Privacy might also be nice at times, thought can't say that I have really needed much, especially for more nudity-friendly Scandinavians. And I like that Yama has a little pocket, plus it seems like I could knock the weight down a bit lower (9oz? Can anyone back me up here?) by taking some of the extras off it.

MLD seems to have a lower bathtub than Yama, and Bearpaw you have to pay extra for larger bathtub and doors. Also MLD comes with struts now? I think I'd prefer a net tent without.

Anyhow, could anyone that has had or currently has one or more of these net tents offer some feedback? Or anyone that is a bivy person like me, and has also tried a net tent, and thinks bivy wins out? I will be roughly doubling my weight for the fully enclosed part of my shelter system, as my Borah bivy is about 5oz. But even with the weight increase, my shelter system would still only be around 21oz all in (tarp 9oz + stakes 2 oz + net tent 10 oz)–plus I think with some tweaking I could get it down to 20 or 19 oz depending on what net tent I get.

Ken Thompson BPL Member
PostedFeb 14, 2015 at 8:14 am

The struts in the MLD tents are short and should not pose any kind of issues.

I'll wager that the BWD tent weighs more that the stated weight and the quality will be behind MLD and Yama. I've owned a Yama owner before. Nicely done. End entry is just not my thing. Have a MLD inner for my mid now. New version with struts.

Have a link for the TTs?

PostedFeb 14, 2015 at 8:49 am

Trekkertents inners also have struts, at least, the Stealth 2 net inner does. Like Dave, I don’t see why short struts should be a problem. I only got the Stealth 2 net inner last week so I can only speak for how it looks out of the box, but it looks to be a very high quality piece of work.
Dave, the solid Trekkertent inner is here. Marc of Trekkertent first posted about what is now the Trekkertent Edge on these forums.

Ken Thompson BPL Member
PostedFeb 14, 2015 at 9:05 am

Oh that guy! I remember that thread here. Thanks William. Dave thanks you too.

PostedFeb 14, 2015 at 11:22 am

Thanks for the fast input you guys. Oh, and before I forget, glad you like my videos Ken/Dave! Thanks for the nice feedback. Got more in the works, just super busy right now.

Yeah, I guess I was being a bit too harsh about the struts. No biggie.

The more I think about the TT solid fabric inner tent, the more I like it. Though I still want to weigh all the options and such. It's almost half a year or so until bug season anyhow.

Very curious to hear from anyone that uses a net tent (or any tent, actually) with a silnylon floor and never uses a ground cover.

And seriously, are there only like 4 UL net tents out there?

PostedFeb 14, 2015 at 12:30 pm

i use one of the older models of the MLD solo inner (and a newer version of the duo inner), both with cuben floors. I have never used a groundsheet with them.

I've ridden out a few really, really nasty storms in the solo (underneath a duomid) and never had an issue, even with spray.

Frankly, I've sold all my other shelters and feel (at least at the moment….) that this setup is The One for me. I'm super happy with it….

I had Bearpaw make me a custom 1.5 inner but it was SO heavy and SO huge folded up…I never even used it. I can't say enough great things about MLD's product – I'm afraid I'm terribly spoiled now.

Joe S BPL Member
PostedFeb 14, 2015 at 4:32 pm

I have an a old yama 2 person I grabbed off gear swap, solit back and 3/4 solid front. Really quality work, use it with a GG Spinn Twinn.

PostedMar 8, 2015 at 1:05 pm

I pulled the trigger on a Trekker Tent inner net tent, and really looking forward to it. It came down to TT or Yama, and I compared the specs and TT was slightly bigger, but the big point that got me to go with TT was the solid fabric option. I also liked that the floor is 40D silnylon, so a bit more durable and more waterproof. Undecided if I will go with a ground cover or not, we'll see. I emailed Marc at TT several times about doing a custom solo inner tent, and he was very helpful and quick to reply. Attention to detail on the final product was top-notch. So big thumbs up to TT's customer service.

I'll most likely do a first impressions type review once I get it and will throw up a link in this thread if/when that happens.

The custom details are that I got a partial solid fabric inner–50cm of the breathable nylon on the side walls, plus the standard full fabric ends but with small net vents at the top of them. Then the top is net. I wanted the best of both worlds of breathable but also protection from spray and wind. Plus a bit of privacy is nice, especially considering that I will be using this net tent with my Zpacks Cuben flat tarp.

I have a big section hike coming up in early April that I hope to field test this net tent. I will be hiking trails less traveled as I go further into central Sweden on the E1 (less trail shelters, less civilization in general, etc.), so part of the appeal of a net tent will be to have a little place to hang out in way out there if needed. I love my bivy, but its not exactly a "home away from home" type shelter. But great for lots of other reasons.

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