Yama Flat Tarp Review
Jun 5, 2023 at 9:00 am #3782649
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Yama Flat Tarp Review: our first looks at this 7′ x 9′ silpoly ultralight shelter for ultralight backpacking.Jun 5, 2023 at 11:49 am #3782663John S.BPL Member
I am surprised you would leave out the best value (lightest and lowest cost) 7 x 9 ft silpoly tarp on the market made by Borah Gear.Jun 6, 2023 at 6:50 am #3782751Monte MastersonBPL Member
@septimiusLocale: Southern Indiana
Thanks for the review.
The Borahgear tarp probably is the best value for the money but it only comes default with 8 perimeter tieouts. I think more can be added upon request with a reasonable upcharge, and that includes panel tieouts as well. However the reinforcements are larger and more substantial (and stronger) on the Yama tarp.
Tarpology has really lost favor on BPL and I believe much has to do with the availability of sub 20 oz DCF tents nowadays. Yet many who have never used tarps very much might not realize the big advantages they provide. There is a learning curve and more of a fiddle factor to be sure.
Most people give up on tarping before they master the skills needed to make it easier. As you state Drew, the VERSATILITY is the main draw to flat tarps. For example, when you simply want to erect a quick sunshade in the desert. Try doing that with a tent which is way more involved to set up and gets hotter inside with little ventilation (unless it’s just the fast fly option).
I like the dog ear pitch Drew. It’s basically a double pole holden with center pull tieout. Half pyramid is tough with a tarp much wider than 5′ though. Panel tieouts help yet it’s far from ideal with the bigger tarp. The plow point and upside-down L pitches work well with a 7′ X 9′.
Gen at Yama is a hundred times more talented than me but I like my panel tieouts far better. I take two 4″ square pieces of 20D silpoly (same material as tarp) and bond one on each side of tarp to give me 3 layers total. Then on the underneath side I bond a 2″ square of X-Pac. Lastly I sew grosgain on top side with stitching going into the X-Pac underneath. With 3/32″ shockcord loops my panel tieouts can handle brutal winds without tearing out. Gen’s panel tieouts are too small IMO but they are probably fine in most cases. You can see bonded panel tieouts on my tarp below in a simple lean to pitch.Jun 6, 2023 at 7:46 am #3782752Ron Bell / MLDBPL Member
Noting that since early 2023, all MLD non-DCF tarps and shelters (except the much tougher 30d SilNylon Supermid) have been 20d Pro SilPoly fabric.Jun 6, 2023 at 12:11 pm #3782772Chris KBPL Member
Drew not sure if you were familiar with John Abela, but before he passed away he would do trail work on the Mojave Trail and experimented with an aluminized tarp. There’s also this quirky product by 2GoSystems: https://www.2gosystems.com/collections/tarp-accessories/products/trifecta?variant=5897656453Jun 7, 2023 at 11:16 am #3782829
@John S. – missing/forgetting the Borah Tarp was indeed an oversight. Here is an updated version of the comp tableJun 7, 2023 at 11:22 am #3782831
@ Chris K – Hadn’t heard of John, but I am thinking along the same lines of modding a tarp for desert use by perhaps adding a removable mylar layer. I’ll report back if I make any progress on this front. Thanks for the 2Go link, I wasn’t familiar with them.Jun 8, 2023 at 12:11 pm #3782901Monte MastersonBPL Member
@septimiusLocale: Southern Indiana
I was wrong, my bad, I stated earlier that the Borahgear 7′ X 9′ has only 8 perimeter tieouts when in fact it has 12. I was thinking of their 5.8′ X 9′.
If you want a tarp that’s reflective against hot desert solar rays I’d suggest getting simplylightdesigns to make one out of RSBTR white 20D silpoly. You’d have to request panel tieouts and I don’t know how they’re applied. Of course the HMG tarp comes in white.
Rab Siltarp 2 is made of high quality 30D Cordura but its panel and perimeter reinforcements are not well done. MLD Supertarp is no doubt supreme in terms of material and build. I heard Yama uses RSBTR 20D silpoly for their tarps but I haven’t confirmed it.
The MLD Monk Tarp (silpoly) is the best solo tarp IMO but just like tents most people nowadays want something wider. It’s 5′ X 9′ and has 12 perimeter tieouts and 2 panel tieouts, all of which are masterfully reinforced. The half pyramid and double pole holden work great with the Monk Tarp’s 5′ width. Any wider and not so much. https://mountainlaureldesigns.com/product/monk-flat-tarp/
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