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  • #3506109
    Nathan Meyerson
    BPL Member

    @nathanmeyerson

    Locale: Southwest

    Hi folks, I’m getting ready to order a custom run of Xpac V21 (210 Denier face with .5mil PET laminate and NO 50d Polyester taffeta scrim)

    I’ve been using the X21 material to build packs for the last 4 years or so via my LLC Cascade Craftworks. I believe this to be the nearly the ideal of functionally waterproof fabric for ultralight packs.

    I moved to New Mexico last winter and have been focusing on prototyping for a new line of backpacking/bikepacking gear. (I’ve been a lifelong adventure cyclist).

    I’ve been a contributor to online ultralight backpacking forums since the pre-BPL days of backpacking.net.

    I am a firm believer that most innovation in the realms of accessible outdoor gear will always come from cottage gear makers and garage tinkerers. Being a support/resource to these communities has always been in the best interest of outdoor enthusiasts everywhere.

    I wanted to pose a question: What fabric colors are folks interested in?

    I have access to Black, White, Bahama Blue, Spanish Teal, Deep Purple, True Red, Coyote Brown and Slate Grey

    Be mindful that in any case, I will be doing a run of V42 (420 Denier face to .5mil PET with no X ply or 50d poly scrim) in BLACK.

    So something that can blend/contrast with BLACK is ideal.

    Currently I am leaning toward Coyote Brown, though I’m Happy to be swayed by the will of the people.

    As a disclosure, I do intend to sell this fabric once produced.

    Further, I have begun building a number of video tutorials for home-gear makers to gain some insight or inspiration from the 15+ years of sewing experience I have accumulated.

    In any case, I hope this holiday season treats you all well.

    Cheers,

    Nathan

    #3506122
    Matthew / BPL
    Moderator

    @matthewkphx

    Grey!

    #3506125
    Mordecai _
    BPL Member

    @mocai

    Grey is good. I wouldn’t choose a bright color for my pack, but I would take anything over brown. Brown is terrible. Brown ruins everything. People who wear browns and beiges are horrible animals.

    #3506134
    Stumphges
    BPL Member

    @stumphges

    Grey or gray

     

    #3506147
    Hoosier T
    BPL Member

    @jturner140

    Locale: Midwest

    I think white is awesome. Is this different than X21?

    #3506150
    Nathan Meyerson
    BPL Member

    @nathanmeyerson

    Locale: Southwest

    It’s Xpac X21 WITHOUT the diamond-grid X-ply which just serves as a wear point at this weight of pack fabric.

    #3506151
    Hoosier T
    BPL Member

    @jturner140

    Locale: Midwest

    Oh man, this is going to be outstanding material. Expect an order from me. I also think grey would be a good choice.

    #3506157
    Matthew / BPL
    Moderator

    @matthewkphx

    Can I vote twice for grey?

    #3506158
    Nathan Meyerson
    BPL Member

    @nathanmeyerson

    Locale: Southwest

    So my only issue with the slate Grey, is that DP already builds this in X21. The opportunity to build something novel outside of current X21 options (Black, Grey, Yellow, Whitish-grey) is appealing to me, I can buy small yardage of X21 in Grey at my leisure. Whereas this is a 100yard minimum to do the custom spec.

    Also considering using a white-pigmented PET layer to add visibility and contrast on inside of pack.

     

    Also note that ‘coyote brown’ is more of a sandy-tan.

    Heres a KS ultralight in this same color fabric:

    Coyote

    #3506172
    Ryan Smith
    BPL Member

    @violentgreen

    Locale: East TN

    White pigmented PET layer – YES. If that’s not much more of a cost to you that’s a no brainer.

    Otherwise, my vote is blue! Also, good call on a V21 fabric. While I like the looks of X21, the grid really is useless in packs. Do you know what the oz/yd difference would be in X21 vs V21?

    #3506176
    Matthew / BPL
    Moderator

    @matthewkphx

    Heck yes at white inside.

    What about a bold color for inside? Bright yellow? Hot pink? Funky neon lime green? I may not be representative of everyone else’s taste but I like the idea of a pack that is subtle on the outside and has a functional (bright) but interesting/weird interior color.

    #3506207
    Hoosier T
    BPL Member

    @jturner140

    Locale: Midwest

    I love coyote for hammock or quilts, but there’s just something I don’t like about it on a pack. Couldn’t tell you why, but for packs I much prefer green, red, gray, white, or black.

    Also, there’s something I love about a white pack with black bottom, straps and pockets. Maybe it reminds me of a Stormtrooper’s pack?

    #3506241
    Dan @ Durston Gear
    BPL Member

    @dandydan

    Locale: Canadian Rockies

    Great to hear you’re ditching the X layer. Perfect move. Lighter, more durable, easy to roll.

    On color, I’m easily pleased as long as it’s not something too wild (purple, teal). I like the other colors (blue, red) and the neutral shades (grey, brown). Ideal would be one color and one neutral.

    #3506310
    Medic16
    Spectator

    @medic16

    Coyote Brown

    #3506348
    Eric Blumensaadt
    BPL Member

    @danepacker

    Locale: Mojave Desert

    Gray and “whitish gray”  combo would really make it different. Gray on the bottom and other wear areas, W-G on the main body.

    (Full Disclosure) This color suggestion is coming from a guy who just had his stucco house painted brick red with cream color eaves, fascia and trim – so be forewarned. (No, I’m not color blind, but all my taste is in my mouth.)

    #3506882
    Spencer A
    BPL Member

    @spencer-a

    I personally like grey, black, green, or blue, though not as bright as the VX-21 colors…more like the Dyneema X green and blue that RSBTR offers.

    Any word on how much this fabric will weigh and when it will arrive?  I would be interested in purchasing a few yards

    #3506885
    Hoosier T
    BPL Member

    @jturner140

    Locale: Midwest

    Any word on how much this fabric will weigh and when it will arrive?  I would be interested in purchasing a few yards

    X21RC weighs 4.4 osy and I wouldn’t imagine that just removing the X-ply would reduce the weight by much. Nathan will know once he gets his hands on it but my guess is ~4.2 osy?

     

    #3506992
    Nathan Meyerson
    BPL Member

    @nathanmeyerson

    Locale: Southwest

    What Hoosier said.

    #3510751
    Hoosier T
    BPL Member

    @jturner140

    Locale: Midwest

    Curious, what color did you end up going with? I’m ready to order a yard as soon as you get it.

    #3510763
    Nathan Meyerson
    BPL Member

    @nathanmeyerson

    Locale: Southwest

    I’m building the first run of V21 in Coyote tan. I know I’ll get some boo’s here, but everyone locally I’ve shown the color to here locally has raved about it. Contrasted with black looks great.

    For additional novelty, I’ll be offering some X21 in Black and X42 in Green with a white pigmented PET inner laminate.

    Next custom run will be a V42 in Black. Likely in Feb/ March

    Will provide an initial announcement once I have these in-hand.

    #3510770
    Jim Colten
    BPL Member

    @jcolten

    Locale: MN

    Black and gold?

     

    #3510814
    Hoosier T
    BPL Member

    @jturner140

    Locale: Midwest

    My wife will love it. She’s been asking me to make her a MYOG clone of her GG gorilla. All her hammock and quilt gear is coyote and purple (stellar combo btw) so It’ll work out.

    #3510901
    Dan @ Durston Gear
    BPL Member

    @dandydan

    Locale: Canadian Rockies

    Cool. Do you have an ETA on the V21?

    It appears that the CascadeCraftworks.com website is down.

    #3510911
    Nathan Meyerson
    BPL Member

    @nathanmeyerson

    Locale: Southwest

    End of January last I heard.

    New website in the works as I rebrand.

     

    Cheers

    #3510996
    Ryan Smith
    BPL Member

    @violentgreen

    Locale: East TN

    “I’m building the first run of V21 in Coyote tan. I know I’ll get some boo’s here”

    Boo! Hiss! Just kidding. Look forward to seeing the finished product.

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