Winter Boot with removable Liners

Salomon Tundra boots for me. I can hike all day in them. I can get micro spikes on and off with ease and I can also use my snow shoes ( Northern Lites or MSR Lightning Ascents ) , without any problems at all.

Baffin Borealis but there is conflicting info on weight.  Baffin specs 4.5 lbs/pr, review weighed them at 3 lbs/pr.   Some BPL users wear these, maybe someone can confirm the weight.  Some caveats from reviews: narrow, low flood height, and non breathable (best < -5C) but they seem well liked if you work within their limitations

How much do the salomons weigh?

1 lb 7 ounce. And the insole comes out too.

Thanks, something to definitely consider even if the liners don’t come out….. Not the end of the world.

Are they warm?

My wife would kill me for having 2 pairs of winter boots, she’d be like why do you need both?

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They are very warm!

Im a big fan of the Baffin Borealis. My size 10’s are under 3lbs. That being said they need to be used below 20ish degrees. I don’t sleep in the liners, however I seal them up in a dry sack and stuff them into the bottom of my bag.  Used them on this trip with great success. https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/one-tough-trip-snowshoe-across-the-bob-marshall-wilderness/

Even when I wore double mountaineering boots, I never slept in liners. It’s a bad idea given they’re usually sweat soaked, and you’re sick of being in them after all day. As Tom says, put them in a dry sack, and stuff them down into your bag. Bring down booties for sleep.

I never said anything about sleeping in them, just with them in my quilt

The way you worded your OP it’s easy to misunderstand, or at least take your meaning either way. My bad

My partner and I have both had two pairs of the Salomon tundra boots. All of them leaked after a seasons use. On the plus side the warmth to weight ratio is really good although I found them too cold for dogsledding when it was -10c or colder. I have an enormous pair of lundhags with felted liners that I use now but I would like another pair of the tundras for milder days if they came one size bigger and addressed the leaking problem.

I use Baffin Summits.  I appreciate the removable liners, and put them in the foot of my bag at night.  Looks like they are on clearance at Amazon at the moment.  They are light and comfortable to hike in.

However, I didn’t like the liners that came with the boots, they were a squishy foam that felt odd on the bottom of my foot.  I replaced them with wool felt liners from thefeltstore.com.  I also added extra wool felt insoles (from the same store, installed underneath the liners) for extra cold protection from the ground.  I normally wear a size 9, but I have size 10 Baffin Summits, size 9 liners and insoles (which fit in the boot shells perfectly), and still have enough room in the boots for two pairs of socks.

It was difficult for me to find a pair of winter boots that were reasonably light, had removable liners, and were comfortable (my feet are very picky).   These boots work for me.

With the mods, the boots are 3 lb 7 oz for the pair.

I probably didn’t need to, but I seam sealed the boots on the outside with seam grip to make sure they were fully waterproof.

Josh J, It is “the end of the world” when boot liners are not removable IF you are winter camping. In that situation boot liners MUST be removed to place in the foot of your (longer, I hope) sleeping bag/quilt to keep them warm for the morning. Freezing toes while making breakfast and breaking camp are painful!

PLUS you should always use some form of Vapor Barrier Lining (VBL) to keep body sweat out of the liners and thus keeping your feet as warm at 4 PM as they were at 6 AM. My choice for a long time has been 3 mm thick closed cell neoprene divers’ socks over a thin poly liner. The soaking wet poly liner is removed each night and stored in a tightly shut ZipLoc freezer bag.  (Yep, carry one pair of liner socks for each day camping.)  US Divers brand is the best VBL of this type as it is factory seam sealed and comes with Left and Right shaped socks.

Eric,

do you have any recommendations? for boots?

I have a pair of Sorel Caribou boots. I took out the felt liner and use a pair of down booties with a heavy wool sock over them instead. The sock keeps the booties from sliding. Much warmer and a better fit.  I don’t really hike in them and synthetic insulation would maybe be better, but I’m using what I got.