Aug 12, 2020 at 9:35 pm #3670574lisa rBPL Member
I’m sure this has been covered before, but a quick search turned up only pretty old discussions, so I’m curious what folks nowadays are bringing.
I find myself increasingly doing off-trail solo trips and am realizing I need to be much more prepared to manage gear failures in the field than I’d consider necessary if I were sticking to well traveled trails. I’ve also been working hard to reduce my base weight so I don’t want to bring the whole kitchen sink with me. I’m aiming for smart-light.
Right now my repair lists consists of Tenacious Tape, both regular and for sil-nylon, some safety pins, one tent pole sleeve, and I was thinking about throwing in a few zip ties. I also carry some leukotape.
On my last trip I started wondering what I’d do if I had pack shoulder strap failure or shoe failure (specially since I’ve made the switch to trail runners) and what I could/should bring for those cases. And I’m trying to think of what other kinds of gear failure could be problematic to mildly catastrophic if it occurred in the middle of doing a solo high route.
What else should I be carrying?Aug 12, 2020 at 10:38 pm #3670576
Needle and thread/floss?Aug 12, 2020 at 10:39 pm #3670577
A little extra line?Aug 13, 2020 at 12:15 am #3670581Adrian GriffinBPL Member
Twenty feet of microcord. I carry a few cable ties. Get the type with the thumbnail tab allowing you to release and reuse them.Aug 13, 2020 at 1:06 am #3670585Edward John MBPL Member
Needles and strong thread.
5minute epoxy. Superglue and one of each of whatever SR buckles on my pack and as much cord as I think needed
If ski touringn then binding screws, Posi-drive screwdriver, stainless steel wire and fixings as wellAug 13, 2020 at 10:28 am #3670608lisa rBPL Member
For people suggesting extra cord, what are the potential uses you envision for it?Aug 13, 2020 at 10:33 am #3670610Nick GatelBPL Member
@ngatelLocale: Southern California
Needle & thread. Tape. Mostly to repair clothing and shoes. A quality pack and shelter should hold up to the rigors of solo hiking off trail.Aug 13, 2020 at 11:16 am #3670617David HartleyBPL Member
@dhartleyLocale: Western NY
Beyond the common items like tape or thread and needle I bring a spare hipbelt buckle. It doesn’t weigh much and I figure a long trip might get pretty unpleasant with a non-functioning hipbelt. I also include a spare cap for my water containers.Aug 13, 2020 at 11:41 am #3670619Dave HeissBPL Member
@daveheissLocale: Pacific Northwest
I just bring some tenacious tape and some cord, although the zip-tie idea is a good one. I’ll add a few of those.
I think one other noteworthy point is not to go out with any gear that is on its last legs. I’m as guilty as anyone about nursing along gear that is near the end of its life but I find that’s where I tend to run into problems. If your gear is in good condition the chances that you’ll need to make emergency repairs is pretty low.Aug 13, 2020 at 11:47 am #3670620Adrian GriffinBPL Member
The extra cord is for shoelace replacement, guy line repair, perhaps making a clothesline. If you have a panel-loading pack, it can be used for a diamond hitch if the zipper breaks.
BTW, I endorse David’s suggestion for an extra bottle cap. Mine fits my smart water bottles, the squeeze bottle for my Sawyer mini, and my 5-liter Juvale.Aug 13, 2020 at 6:53 pm #3670684
beyond what Adrian said, It could be used to address the OP’s concern about a shoulder strap/buckle failure.
David Thomas likes some sort of braided fishing line. He sent me some when we did an exchange of spoons a couple years ago. It’s really lightweight but I usually just carry maybe 6 or 8′ of MLD 1.5mm line. It’s like 6 grams or something.
I’m a heretic. I carry a heavy FAK/Repair kit that is near 1/2# on longer trips. Maybe 6 ounces if I really pare it back. I feel like I lot of mileage out of that half-pound. I usually travel either with my son (who I feel responsible for protecting) or by myself (with nobody else to rely on).Aug 13, 2020 at 6:53 pm #3670686
also, hell yeah at a spare bottle cap.Aug 13, 2020 at 7:06 pm #3670691
That fishing line I mail out to folks is 130-pound-test braided Dacron halibut fishing line. 6 grams for 25 feet. Strong enough for guy lines, clothes, lines, lashing sticks together, sewing shoes or pack straps, or emergency shoe laces. I’d rank my most important repair items as follows:
– some of that light but strong fishing line.
– a glover’s needle (goes through anything), stored in a square inch of waxed cardboard (fire starter / palm thimble)
– extra bottle cap (may be modified for a shower-head or SteriPen)
– square inch of emery cloth (knife sharpener, filing metal burrs down).
– one large and one small safety pin
– one or two medium and 6 tiny zip ties.
– smaller needle and thread for a longer trip.
Elsewhere, I’d have my Victorinox Classic, a mini-Bic and Luekotape.Aug 14, 2020 at 9:10 am #3670733Tipi WalterBPL Member
David Hartley is spot on about bringing an extra hipbelt buckle as you will inadvertently step on it during a trip and snap off a tooth—so I always carry a spare.
It’s also important to carefully inspect items before a trip—boot soles and laces, tent pole shock cord, tent fly for tiny pinholes, clothing, etc.
I bring pre-threaded needles ready to go so when a mishap happens I can get to sewing—
This is my emergency bic lighter with needles in an old McNett’s ripstop tape container—just in case my mini Bics quit working.
Another critical item for a silnylon tent fly is McNett’s Silnet sealer and some ripstop tape—or tenacious tape. The sealer is vital during a rainstorm to see if your tent fly has any small holes which are easily fixed with a dab of Silnet—or patches as in this example.
One time I was in a gap and a big windstorm blew a tree limb onto my Hilleberg tent and I immediately when out in the rain and used my pre-threaded needles to sew it up and then coated the whole thing with McNett’s Silnet which works great on Hilleberg Kerlon.
And sometimes you’ll have an inflatable sleeping pad blowout on a trip which cannot be fixed—like a delamination—so I always carry the smallest NeoAir they make and keep it in my pack for emergency use.
Oh and let’s not forget your tent pole repair sleeve—which I needed and didn’t have on a trip when my crappy Mt Hardwear pole snapped in half during a trip—(using their old Atlas pole system).Aug 14, 2020 at 9:16 am #3670734Andy StowBPL Member
@andysLocale: Midwest USA
What size glover’s needle, David?Aug 14, 2020 at 11:01 am #3670749Jenny ABPL Member
@jenniferaLocale: Front Range
An item I carry in my 10 Essentials kit is an 18″ stretchy rubber strap, sometimes called a “Voile” strap and commonly found in back country ski shops and now with bike packing gear. These can be used to repair gear, help fasten a splint, compress things, and attach a cup to a trekking pole to retrieve a fishing reel spool out of a creek (OOPS).Aug 14, 2020 at 1:48 pm #3670772Robert SpencerBPL Member
@bspencerLocale: Sierras of CA and deserts of Utah
Does the tenacious tape work well on DCF tent floor? I discovered a pinhole leak on my last trip and wondering if I needed something specific for that material.
Would the tape go on the outside or inside of the tent floor?Aug 14, 2020 at 2:26 pm #3670778
Andy: I get the $2.79 assortment that Safeway stocks (or the fabric store) and bring the larger of the two chisel-point / sharpened needles.
I’ve tried some of the cheaper assortments off of eBay and the needles aren’t sharpened and other reviewers are disappointed with how easily they break.Aug 14, 2020 at 3:12 pm #3670786Duane HallBPL Member
@pkhLocale: Nova Scotia
Robert Spencer: I am unfamiliar with Tenacious tape; I always carry DCF repair tape in small rolls or patches for my DCF shelters, and I’ve used it successfully on small tears. You can purchase this from Zpacks.
I would place the repair tape on both sides of the tear or pinhole. It is a good idea to round off the edges of the tape.Aug 14, 2020 at 3:23 pm #3670788
Rounding corners is always good. On patches, on bandages, on moleskin.
And the best way to do is 1) bring small scissors* and 2) leave/place the tape on non-stick backing paper and cut while it is on the backing.
* I do pre-round the corners at each end of a piece of tape or rectangular patch at home, but that often leaves two new corners to be rounded in the field.Aug 19, 2020 at 1:20 am #3671551Andrew IBPL Member
I just got back from a trip where I had to sew up the entire side of my tarp from floor to ridgeline. Plus, I had to do it quick since storm clouds were brewing and thunder was cracking. I bring a needle and thread kit and this was the first time I’ve had to use it for field repair and I was glad to have it. It didn’t wind up raining but I was able to sew up the side in case it did. I also carry tenacious tape and duct tape. The duct tape does NOT stick to my coated silpoly though. I tried medical tape, duct tape, and even shoe goo. Tenacious tape will do it though. Thinking about bringing some seam sealing Silnet for my kit now.Aug 19, 2020 at 2:32 am #3671554
“Duct tape” is shit. Actual metallic duct tape that tolerates hundreds of degrees F has its uses when I’ve got my plumber’s hat on, but not on the trail.
Luekotape is good, especially for foot care and other first-aid applications.
Tenacious Tape is probably the best general-purpose repair tape.
DON’T bring the gray, clothy “duct tape”. Gorilla Tape is stickier and stronger and better in every way.
If you do insist on bringing “duct tape”, at least get 3M brand because it is better than the off-brands, even if the off-brands come in more colors and patterns.Aug 19, 2020 at 6:45 am #3671565Erica RBPL Member
needles and thread
DCF repair tape
Aluminum duct tape (the width came in handy when something ate through my bug netting)
Thermarest repair kit
spare bottle cap
razor blade (not sure what it is for, but it doesn’t weigh much)
spare zipper slider for the tent
too much Z line (very lightweight line)
What is the super glue for? Might be a good idea.Aug 19, 2020 at 11:38 am #3671620Andrew IBPL Member
Zipper pulls can get heavy since they’re usually cast metal. A paper clip and tape (or just the clip) will do the job in a pinch.
Seam sealer might be a good addition to the kit as well.Aug 19, 2020 at 4:36 pm #3671677Edward John MBPL Member
Superglue is for emergency repairs to my spectacles when/if the tiny screw falls our and gets lost. Also used for ski repairs
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