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Dec 7, 2016 at 5:32 pm #3439368AnonymousInactive
I am looking for some water proof socks. From past forum posts the Rocky gore tex socks got good reviews. I am wondering about cheaper alternatives. Anybody have any experience with the Showers Pass socks at REI or the Sealskinz socks or other brands?
Dec 8, 2016 at 11:13 am #3439484I used Showers Pass on the Great Outdoors Challenge this year across Scotland. They are still waterproof but the fit is snug.I must admit the outers hold water for a long time. So if the going is wet do not let your hiking pants contact the socks or your legs will soon get wet. Once your camp is set up, drying them out can be a problem if raining.Nice to have dry feet at the end of the day.
Dec 10, 2016 at 3:43 am #3439828I use Sealskinz, but exclusively in camp. During the day my feet get wet, but that doesn’t really bother me.
It’s nice to be able to slip into dry socks which you can use in your wet shoes while setting up camp.
They are not made to walk in. If you’d do that, I think they would lose their waterproofness within one day.
Dec 10, 2016 at 4:24 am #3439829I concur what Arne says; when used for walking, my pair of Sealskinz-socks leaked within 2 days. Wet feet during walking doesn’t have to be a problem; as long as they don’t get cold it’s not a problem.
Further, the knit exterior of the Sealskinz-socks soaks up water. And the Rocky-socks have a tight fit and stretch very little so if possible, try the first. I had to buy them before I could try them: to get one sock on took me 20 minutes (and only possible then with a thin silk stocking under it); to get it off took even longer.
Dec 10, 2016 at 10:57 am #3439867Get the rocky socks if you want something that you can hike it and lasts decently
You MUST try em on prior or buy em from somewhere with free return shipping …. The sizing is fairly unique
make sure you try em with mo more than a light/mid weight sock … Youll generally be wearing liner socks only in em to minimize dampness from foot sweat
there is a fairly specific process for puttig them on/offf … Only pull on the NON stretchy parts … Pulling on the stretchy parts can tear the membrane … once you figure out how to do it properly it takes like 1 minute to get them on/off
WPB socks are a pretty specific item for constant wet and cold conditions between 30-50F when the trail is basically a giant puddle, mud pit or stream …
if you dont face those conditions you dont need WPB socks
above you can see my rocky socks crossing a bit of water ….. In those conditions the water cleans the socks n shoes
as always try to buy from somewhere like MEC (or REI for the first year) that has its own warranty in addition to the manufacturer
;)
Dec 10, 2016 at 11:25 am #3439872My 2 cents: I used the Rocky GTX Socks many days while tree planting about two decades ago. They where great. I never had issues putting them on nor taking them off. They even lasted longer then anticipated. My feet do not sweat much which may be a different story for others…
Cheers
Pierre
Dec 10, 2016 at 12:26 pm #3439876WPB socks are a pretty specific item for constant wet and cold conditions between 30-50F when the trail is basically a giant puddle, mud pit or stream …
I would lower those 30 °F. If you hike in wet snow, they can be very handy.
Dec 10, 2016 at 12:42 pm #3439878the issue isnt the WPB socks themselves when it gets down to the 20s .. the problem is that most folks use em in combination with mesh highly breathable trail runners
once you start using em when it gets decently cold … the snow/ice tends to accumulate and freeze in the mesh, and even in the shoe …
this often results in quite a bit of cooling directly on the sock … and since yr likely wering a light sock (to get the socks on, and to minimize moisture accumulation) under the WPB, cold feet
the same issue happens to a certain degree with WPB mesh trail runner/boots … but in those cases at least you can wear a decently thicker sock
which is why in actual winter/mountain boots, if theres any “mesh” type fabric is pretty tightly woven or its leather to prevent snow/ice sticking
in fact the great skurka does have an article that talks about it
;)
Dec 10, 2016 at 1:14 pm #3439881Eric, have you tried neoprene socks for those super wet/cold flooded trail conditions?
The rocky goretex socks are super useful for when you encounter snow, but yes Eric is right about your non waterproof shoe absorbing lots of water and cooling your foot. Especially when walking from snow melt streams directly into snow.
Dec 10, 2016 at 2:25 pm #3439885I’ve found possum socks with a polypropylene liner sock and a waterproof shoe (neoshell lone peaks – which I find quite warm) to be as warm as 0.5mm neoprene with the same liner in cold/wet or hiking in wet or dry snow, though this may be in part because it’s been hard to find a good fit with neoprene. On paper, neoprene and other thinner vapor barriers are warmer, but fit and maceration are also big considerations. I find moving the vapor barrier out to the level of the shoe is a better solution.
It would be interesting to try fleece socks, or something like high loft thermal pro, but I haven’t found well designed socks in fleece.
Dec 10, 2016 at 2:35 pm #3439887Does the snow/ice also should stick to the mesh of non-wp trailrunners when wearing the normal socks ?
EDIT: and can someone give the url of that Skurka-article, please ?
Dec 10, 2016 at 3:54 pm #3439902Dec 10, 2016 at 4:28 pm #3439906Thanks but where in that article do they talk about snow sticking to mesh when using wp-socks ?
Dec 10, 2016 at 6:41 pm #3439914My only complaint about the X Ultras is that the exterior materials will retain liquid water from snowpack that has melted due to ambient temperatures or to my body heat. This accelerates conductive heat loss, and makes it more difficult to keep my feet warm. I wonder if a waterproof boot with a water-resistant full-grain leather upper like the Vasque Sundowner GTX would absorb less water, and therefore keep my foot warmer.
this applies to most mesh shoes WPB socks or not … in fact its worse with “breathable” open mesh trail runners as the INSIDE gets soaked as well, not just the outside
its an easy test … soak yr mesh trail runner in water throughly, pacj it with snow or shaved ice (if u have no snow right now) … and throw it in the freezer overnight …
of course one can wear a WPB sock with a non-mesh shoe … but it would say most folks dont do this …
;)
Dec 11, 2016 at 4:43 am #3439949I guess it depends on the used mesh because I walked enough through streams and/or snow landscapes with mesh trailrunners and I can’t remember I’ve ever experienced it.
Dec 11, 2016 at 8:01 am #3439958Snow, slush and ice streams right around or below freezing are fine (30F+)… As you can see i use my rocky socks all the time for such
its when it gets into the lower 20s, especially once you add in windchill (which can easily mean 10s) that any moisure in the system start cooling rapidly
along with the fact that one cant wear too thick a sock (which might take you 20 min to get on an off under the WPB sock and constrict blood flow) unless one sizes up both shoes and socks
one is basically using an open mesh trail runner thats constantly soaked right against a thin sock with no insulation in what could easily be 10s F once you add in windchill
and when (not if) one needs to stop and rest …. Yr feet will start freezing, unlike the upper body theres no belay jacket for yr feet
;)
Dec 11, 2016 at 8:07 am #3439960Again, that has never happened to me and my shoes :)
Dec 11, 2016 at 8:19 am #3439962well ive never taken 20 min to put and take WPB socks on either
like i said its a simple test… all you need is to soak and pack with snow yr shoes and throw em in the freezer to see how much moisture they retain … then let it “dry” in the shade around freezing
theres a reason why folks start wearing insulated boots at some point in the winter .. and wear thicker socks
=P
Dec 11, 2016 at 8:36 am #3439963Perhaps. But all I can say that I never experienced that. What you say makes sense, but there are just too few experiences/reports to make it for me a general conclusion (even with your simple test). :)
Dec 11, 2016 at 8:46 am #3439967well aint it snowing in eurobum land right now?
just go out overnight somewhere where its constantly -5C daytime or lower without windchill and you have a few feet of fairly fresh snow …
arent ryan air flights like 10 euros or something these days
the other thing no one has mentioned about soaked mesh trail runners is that they can easily weight 100-150g more per shoe … especially if frozen with snow and ice
add in the extra weight of a WPB sock and you may not be any lighter than a WPB shoe which doesnt soak up as much moisture
does it matter? … probably not if yr wearing snow shoes or crampons anyways … but for gram weenies, every gram must count !!!
;)
Dec 11, 2016 at 8:59 am #3439968well, I guess you have it heard about that thing called ‘climate change’ ? To find a spot where it can be that cold that long, I would have to travel a long time. And even then, I can’t be sure it will be that cold all the time. :)
Dec 11, 2016 at 9:22 am #3439969global warming? … PFFFT …
one of the local vancouver hills …. folks camp up there all the time in winter
its also a ski resort … theres a frikin paved and constantly plowed road …
every one and their dog (literally, doggay shiet is a real problem on the trail) snow shoes up to the top …. hundreds every week, no matter what the conditions …
;)
Dec 11, 2016 at 9:57 am #3439975Well, perhaps one of the ‘advantages’ of living in the densier populated part of ‘the old continent’ is you can actually see global warming while it happens. I’ve seen numerous series of photos that compare the state of glaciers 100 years back with the state they are now in and it’s staggering to see how much they’ve shrunk in just the last century.
:(
Dec 11, 2016 at 10:10 am #3439977sweeet !!!
i can finally use poncho tarps year round up here in raincouvah … well become like california
=P
Dec 11, 2016 at 10:40 am #3439981since you are a climber, what does the Bonatti pillar on the Drus tell you ?
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