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Trekking pole shelters and thick sleeping pads?

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Bethany S BPL Member
PostedJun 9, 2022 at 11:06 am

I’ve been eying up the XMID 1 and 2 in the vain hope I might be able to score a new or used one sometime this month. However, the more reviews I’m looking at the more I think I need to explore more options and see what other people think.

I’m in AZ and will mostly be backpacking solo in a desert environments while section hiking the AZT. I have a BA Tiger Wall for when I camp in wet environments or bring my pup but it’s big and heavy and I’d like to give a trekking pole tent a try. I’m interested in exploring single or double wall side entry trekking pole tents generally under $300-350ish which would eliminate DCF. I could cowboy camp but the thought of spiders, scorpions, and bugs crawling on me will keep me up at night so an enclosed tent is the best option for now. The SMD Deschutes Plus Tarp with netting skirt would be the most exposure I’d be comfortable with.

The concern is that I use a wide BA QCore sleeping pad (with a 1/4in cc pad for protection in the desert) which is about 4in thick and 25in wide. I’m not tall, standing at 5ft4in but I am worried about my head or feet touching the walls of the tent when I’m the raised sleeping pad. Condensation will probably be minimal but may be present when it’s colder. Wind/blowing dust will likely be another major concern.

Anyone have experience with thick sleeping pads and different types of tents? Would a 2 person be something worth looking into to account for more room? I really would prefer to keep the weight as low as possible but I want to be comfortable.

Rick Reno BPL Member
PostedJun 9, 2022 at 11:38 am

I’m crazy about my Tarptent Notch. Very weather-worthy; side entry with two vestibules; double wall so no condensation; you can keep the inner and fly together for easy pitching (dry in the rain!); about a pound and a half; and plenty of room for me at 6’4″ 200+# with an Xtherm. You’ll be fine on your 4″ pad. Go for it!

Brian T BPL Member
PostedJun 9, 2022 at 12:18 pm

The v2 version of the X-Mid 1 is a little wider than v1 and w/ the very large vestibules on both sides it doesn’t “feel” confined like many other 1p tents may.  At 32″ in width, it accommodates a 25″ pad easily.

Regarding the height, inner peak at 43″ and with offset this means you have a good 43″ over about half of the interior. It’s very nice. I wouldn’t be terribly concerned about the pad thickness.  3″ pads are pretty typical (e.g. Nemo Tensor) and when you are sitting up, they compress A LOT. A 4″ thick pad won’t make much of a difference.

I am only 5’8″, so take this for what its’ worth, but interior height is no problem for me and I use a Nemo Tensor most of the time (w/ a 1/8″ CCF pad often).

The semi-solid interior version should be available on 6/16, which may actually be a good option for your situation (low condensation, dusty/windy conditions, etc.).

Matthew / BPL Moderator
PostedJun 9, 2022 at 12:22 pm

Notch is a nice tent although I wasn’t crazy about the packed size.

What about a Yama Cirriform Min? I like mine. It’s available in Silpoly and DCF right now. Gen doesn’t have any net tents available but he does have bivies available.

I’m in Central Phoenix. Send me a PM if you would like to get together and see what these look like in person with your pad in it.

Todd T BPL Member
PostedJun 9, 2022 at 12:50 pm

I’m trying not to laugh at the thought of a 5’4″ person worried about head and feet touching the tent.  :-)

I’m 6’5″ and do just fine in a Tarptent Notch and an X-Mid 2 on a Neoair Xlite.  Enjoy your 4″ mattress!  Width is a separate issue that I can’t really speak to because I use a 20″ mat.

Dustin V BPL Member
PostedJun 9, 2022 at 2:20 pm

I have a Gatewood, which is the same shape as Deschutes. I use a thinner sleeping pad which does make a little bit of difference in head/foot room. Even so, I’m 5’10” and I don’t have a problem.

With these tarps, you can just set the pole higher and the whole thing is raised. If you use the net inner, you don’t have as much height adjustment.  The net doesn’t have pull-outs at the head and foot, but the tarp does. There are some easy ways to attach the inner/outer, but they don’t come that way out of the box.

Another option is the Deschutes Plus which has a net skirt around the edge, so you could set the pole higher if you want.

Bob B BPL Member
PostedJun 9, 2022 at 2:34 pm

i also carry a foam pad (1/8″ GG) in addition to an inflatable sleeping pad. the foam pad does a lot of different jobs during the day, and at night i roll it out UNDER the tent for a little extra insulation and tent floor protection.

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