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Thermacell – calling the chemists

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Brian T BPL Member
PostedJul 29, 2025 at 8:24 pm

Hey folks

Question– there are two types of thermacell:

1. Pads + butane

2. Liquid + battery

Here is my question: why is the heating element needed? Oil diffusers work without one and successfully make your house smell. Could you use the liquid cartridges without a heater? What would be the effect? Could you add a volatile compound like alcohol to help the evaporation without heat?

Seems to me the constant need for charging and/or butane is a major drag on what amounts to evaporation, no?

Dan BPL Member
PostedJul 30, 2025 at 5:21 am

Presumably, the vapor pressure / rate of evaporation of the insecticidal compound is not sufficient to reach lethal concentrations in the air without heating. It adds complication and expense to the delivery, but is also advantageous because it means that in the absence of heating, the active ingredients are likely more or less non-volatile, which simplifies processing and storage.

The vapor pressure of mixtures/solutions is a bit complex to explain quickly because it depends on the particular compounds and how they interact, but most likely adding a volatile solvent would not significantly increase the evaporation of the active ingredient, and might decrease it.

Essential oil diffusers use various approaches to disperse the ingredients into the air, but it is not usually simple passive evaporation, IIRC. My wife had one for a while, and I’m pretty sure it was electrical and actually created a mist of fine droplets, maybe ultrasonic?

David Thomas BPL Member
PostedJul 30, 2025 at 7:23 pm

I agree with Dan.  Ultimately, it is the vapor pressure of the repellent compound that dictates the temperature need to volatilize it.  Some solids and liquids have have enough vapor pressure at ambient temperature to be effective without heating.  Consider naphthalene in old-style moth balls and moth flakes (which can still be purchased outside of California) – they slowly sublime from a white crystalline solid to a vapor at room temperature.

But a compound with a lower vapor pressure would need to heated or aerosolized in some way, perhaps through ultrasonic vibrations, but that too, would take some energy.

Reviews on the brand I pulled up indicated each butane cartridge lasts 12 hours.  The little repellent pads, about 4 hours each.

If you used the liquid without any heat, there might be some amount of surface area that would evaporate enough of the compound to work.  You could try smearing it over a larger piece of paper or plastic wrap or waxed paper and see if it’s effective at reducing mosquitos.

It appears to get the repellent pads pretty hot because they appear somewhat singed after use.  If it does have to get over 350F, there might not be any surface area at 70F that would be adequate.  Maybe a flexible Fresnel lens rolled up, and then deployed aimed at the repellent pad?  But it would only work during daylight an carry some risk of lighting the picnic table on fire.

Seems to me that burning mosquitos coils is a more direct approach and leaves you with nothing to carry out if you’ve provisioned perfectly.

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