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Jun 28, 2024 at 6:30 am #3814104
Late August, per email from Henry a week or two ago.
Jun 28, 2024 at 7:16 am #3814110^ Thanks!
Aug 20, 2024 at 7:26 pm #3816767Looking like September sometime now
Aug 27, 2024 at 3:13 pm #3817062Will this tent have condensation issues because of the fly being so close to the ground or would the mechanisms added to barely open the fly near the bottom be able to be enough ventilation?
Aug 29, 2024 at 4:21 pm #3817196I’m a Tarptent and Durston fan. Have some each. Only so many ways to deal with a simple dome. The British cottage brand Trekkertent has a different take on a full length vestibule. I understand they custom made so wait time is many months long
https://www.trekkertent.com/home/home/35-saor.html
Aug 30, 2024 at 7:25 am #3817215That Trekkertent Saor looks strikingly similar to the Hilleberg Unna.
https://hilleberg.com/eng/products/tent/Unna
I just used one of those Unna’s on Mt Baker about 4 weeks ago as part of a mountaineering class.
Aug 30, 2024 at 10:24 am #3817224Aug 30, 2024 at 10:35 am #3817225Do the inner doors only unzip partway, or is that just how they’re shown in the video? I’m concerned that it presents a low opening that one has to crawl in and out of to get into the tent.
Aug 30, 2024 at 12:22 pm #3817229I’d agree the Saor and the Unna are very similar; well except the Saor is ~ 2 lbs lighter :)
Looking at the ArcDome specs with aluminum poles (sorry don’t trust carbon poles in the winter) a guy is looking right at 4 lbs all in. That’s what my Hille Niak weighs. If I was looking for a true two person tent, I’d grab the Arc Dome- larger floor space, two doors/vestibules (vs one) for the same weight BUT what I’m really looking for a roomy one person tent (that weighs less than the Niak).
If Henry visits this thread again, maybe he can let us know if there is an Arc Dome I in the works—thinking w/ a little smaller floor and one less door/vestibule, probably would shave ~ a pound, so 3 lbs. That I would snag.
Aug 30, 2024 at 1:11 pm #3817231The sale page is now live
https://www.tarptent.com/product/arc-dome/
Oops, didn’t realize I was only looking at the first page of this thread. Is it possible to delete comments? Oh well.
Aug 30, 2024 at 1:36 pm #3817235What is the deal with the door though?
Compare to a BA Copper Spur UL2:
The door on the ArcDome appears to be half the height of the doors on the BA Copper Spur 2
Even the StratoSpire 2 door seems huge by comparison.
Aug 30, 2024 at 2:07 pm #3817236That photo is of the original prototype. We’ll be updating photos next week but a more accurate photo showing the door opening is here –> https://www.tarptent.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/2024may_ArcDomeSample-1-6-1030×579.jpg
Aug 30, 2024 at 2:11 pm #3817237If Henry visits this thread again, maybe he can let us know if there is an Arc Dome I in the works—thinking w/ a little smaller floor and one less door/vestibule, probably would shave ~ a pound, so 3 lbs. That I would snag.
Aug 30, 2024 at 2:12 pm #3817238If Henry visits this thread again, maybe he can let us know if there is an Arc Dome I in the works—thinking w/ a little smaller floor and one less door/vestibule, probably would shave ~ a pound, so 3 lbs. That I would snag.
:)
Aug 30, 2024 at 4:04 pm #3817240Henry,
The updated photo looks much more reasonable. Thanks.
Jeff
Sep 20, 2024 at 4:51 am #3818468Are we gonna see any reviews of this tent? Ryan?
Sep 20, 2024 at 8:19 am #3818473Sounds like a Solo version is in the works.
It says polyester version is the works as well; I’m assuming polyester = dcf?
Sep 20, 2024 at 8:22 am #3818474No. Polyester means silpoly. DCF is DCF. The most common tent materials these days:
- PU Coated Nylon
- Silnylon
- Silpoly
- DCF
- TNT Ultra
With Silpoly quickly replacing silnylon in a lot of UL tent maker’s lineups.
Sep 20, 2024 at 8:30 am #3818475^ Thanks
Sep 20, 2024 at 4:57 pm #3818490Not a very thorough review but still gives you a first look. I’d love to see Ryan do a deep dive on the ArcDome, especially during a winter storm.
Sep 21, 2024 at 8:07 am #3818513Sounds like a Solo version is in the works.
That’s got my interest!
Nov 2, 2024 at 10:51 am #3821295Anyone else get their hands on one yet?
Nov 3, 2024 at 2:13 pm #3821398Looking at the side entry tents that have become popular, am wondering about the composition and weight of the pegs, and how many are needed to keep the tent taut. That can buck up the weight, depending. The criss-cross pole design is nothing new. Am working on a free standing design with poles that cross on the ends of the tent about halfway up, and use elbows to connect the pole ends to each of two peaks.
Have also spent a lot of time looking at weight and performance of carbon shafts used for tent poles. The goal is to make the tent as taut as possible without a lot of pegs, and use just four pegs to anchor the tent, while the poles are there to keep the tent taut and wind resistant, and minimize flapping. The carbon tubes turned out to weigh .47 oz per foot. Found that the flexible light poles almost fully compensate for additional pegs, which can boost up the carry weight significantly.
Of course, whatever the tent shape, the design must be as aerodynamic as possible; meaning that except for a convex shape at head and foot, there are no barriers in the shape that exceed a 45 degree angle slant to the ground. So the tent must be designed to place the low spaces closest to the ground as much as possible to avoid useless space. One approach is to place access at the front of the tent, and use the back wall only for storage and/or pets. The elimination of a rear entry also cuts down weight with absence of zippers, etc. And an even greater slant is presented with the tent rear facing the wind. Works well for a solo. Granted, a duo would need to be a differently shaped design, certainly longer at the rear.
In any event, hope that tent designs are possible that are original, and do not look like what has been around for many years.
Nov 4, 2024 at 6:18 am #3821418Sam,
Are you thinking of a single door side-entry tent or a single door front-entry tent?
I shared a Big Agnes Fly Creek 2 with a friend once and decided then and there that I hated front entry tents. I didn’t like having to crawl into the front opening like a dog and then flip around my body so that my head was near the door while trying not to kick my partner. The earlier Fly Creek 2’s were also flawed in that when the door to the fly was open, there was no overhang and rain would drip down into the inner.
My first DCF Tent was a ZPacks Hexamid Twin back in 2012. It was basically a 2-p side entry tent with only one door. Think “Plex Solo Classic” but deeper, and ussing a 2nd shorter trekking pole in the back so that the back had enough headroom for the 2nd person. My wife and I hated it. Whomever was in the back and was in need of a pee break at night had to crawl over the person in the front to get out the door, or the two people had to coordinate their pee breaks and getting into / out of the tent.
MSR had a 2P side entry tent with 1 door called the Missing Link.
Since discontinued, here’s an REI link An acquaintance of mine had one back around 2010 and I remember him bringing it on a weekend trip we did where he used it as a 1P tent. He has since gotten rid of it.In a recent Youtube interview with Dan Becker, Michael Glavin said he’s working on a revised version of the Missing Link he’s going to release through Zen Bivy.
Nov 4, 2024 at 1:43 pm #3821483I’m with Jeff on the undesirability of end entry. I guess I can see aerodynamic appeal of a single end door but hey, it would be even more aerodynamic if it had no door. And and end-entry tent is closer to a no-entry tent than to a side-entry in my book. :-)
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