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Suggest useful knot for elastic pigtail ties holding tent screens open

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Alan W BPL Member
PostedMar 6, 2026 at 9:36 am

Durston and some other tents provide short elastic cord “pigtails” along the top seam where door mesh meets solid fabric. Intended function seems to be a lightweight, easily untied means of holding mesh open, up out of the way. These elastic cords are lighter and cheaper than magnetic ties or tiny hooks. They are easier to untie than non-elastic cord. They are quite short.

However, I’ve not identified a knot that is quickly tied, easily untied, and stable in wind or with me brushing against tent fabric on entry/egress.

My half squre knots are not stable. A square knot is harder to tie (very short pigtails) and to untie, elastic notwithstanding.

How do others use and tie the short elastic pigtails provided at screen mesh to fabric juncture?

Dan BPL Member
PostedMar 6, 2026 at 10:55 am

I can’t picture this and I think my tent has magnets. Are you tying two pieces of cord together? Tying a cord to a loop? Maybe a photo would help.

Terran BPL Member
PostedMar 7, 2026 at 7:07 am

A half hitch. Pass thru three or four times. Pulled tight with the elastic, the tension holds them in place. On windy days I might add another half hitch. Not being a true square knot, it’s easier to untie.

Dan BPL Member
PostedMar 7, 2026 at 8:57 am

I was thinking that instead of tying a knot each time, you could make a permanent loop on one side and a simple overhand knot (or figure 8) on the other side. Then you can just pass the knot through the loop and it will stay loosely trapped, like a button or toggle through a loop/hole.

Alan W BPL Member
PostedMar 10, 2026 at 11:38 am

Finally dug out my tent and took a picture of the pigtails (for mesh) along with the nearby magnetic restraint for the vestibule fly.

The sum of their lengths is greater than the magnetic tie for fly; but the total length is in 2 halves.

With gloves off and warm fingers, I can tie a half bow, and maybe that’s the way to go.

I struggle to tie a full bow, and the more involved Berluti bow needs more cord length than I have dexterity.

Fiddling with it in my house just now, it turns out that a semi-tightened square knot is much easier to untie with the elastic than with normal cord.  (If I’d ever noticed that, I’d forgotten.)

Terran, it looks like about 3 loops might be the ticket, and about the limit of my in-home dexterity.  Is this something you’ve used successfully in wind?

Dan, I might use needle and thread to put a small, stable-but-stretchable loop in one half with a bulky stopper knot in the other half, since my brain does not do knots well even after all these years.

Dan BPL Member
PostedMar 10, 2026 at 12:30 pm

Securing a loop with thread is a good idea if it’s not long enough to tie a small bight.

Terran BPL Member
PostedMar 10, 2026 at 2:06 pm

I incorrectly called it a half hitch. I meant a half knot like half a square knot. Instead of passing through once, I pass through multiple times. That holds. You can do another half knot on top in the same direction to make a deformed granny knot that comes out .

If you can do a half bow, do another bow around the half bow with the other tag end.

Megan W BPL Member
PostedMar 10, 2026 at 3:00 pm

I used a small loop aka Dan as the best option of several that I tried. It was pretty good, but still a little tricky if my hands were very cold or wet.

(I ended up making straps with magnets because they are so much easier)

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