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  • #3674798
    Backpacking Light
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    @backpackinglight

    Locale: Rocky Mountains

    Intro to a monthly column that explains important backpacking product standards, interviews key people, and analyzes industry standards.

    #3674806
    BlackHatGuy
    Spectator

    @sleeping

    Locale: The Cascades

    Looking forward to your articles Rex. Thanks for taking this on.

    #3674814
    Adrian Griffin
    BPL Member

    @desolationman

    Locale: Sacramento

    Sorely needed. For backpacks, what I call pocket waste affects the usable volume. My zPacks Arc Blast (55 liters, plus about 3 liters for the add-on side pockets) seems nearly as big as my Jansport Carson 80. The reason is that the Carson has 6 pockets, a large lid, and a sleeping bag compartment. The 80 liters is measured assuming all pockets are exactly filled. But gear doesn’t fit this way, so the practical volume is much less. The Arc Blast is one big sack, plus a back mesh pocket, so the practical volume is closer to the stated volume.

    So when you do packs, see if there’s a way to allow for lost space in partly-filled pockets and lids.

    #3674820
    PaulW
    BPL Member

    @peweg8

    Locale: Western Colorado

    I’m really looking forward to these articles. I’d love to understand what “standards” are used to determine torso length, shoe size, and tent sizing. Seems like no one uses the same length ruler!

    #3674824
    todd
    BPL Member

    @funnymo

    Locale: SE USA

    This sounds great!  Lotsa possibilities here.

    #3674877
    BlackHatGuy
    Spectator

    @sleeping

    Locale: The Cascades

    What I’d really love to see is after your series is over, is that it all get consolidated into a downloadable e-book, preferably in PDF format.

    #3674916
    Todd T
    BPL Member

    @texasbb

    Locale: Pacific Northwest

    As a tall guy, I find the most egregious inconsistencies in the labeling of tent dimensions.  It’s not that published dimensions are wrong, it’s that they’re irrelevant.  Floor length and width are utterly meaningless without knowledge of ceiling height at/near the edges.  Peak ceiling height is irrelevant in all cases unless the ceiling is completely flat.  All dimensions have different practical meanings for single- vs double-wall.  Etc.

    I don’t expect this one to be easy.

    #3674946
    Rex Sanders
    BPL Member

    @rex

    Thanks for the encouragement and suggestions. Keep those ideas coming!

    — Rex

    #3674951
    Adrian Griffin
    BPL Member

    @desolationman

    Locale: Sacramento

    Perhaps the length of a tent should not be the full length, but the length for which the internal height is more than 10 inches, 12 inches, or whatever to allow clearance for the sleeper’s head and the toe box of their sleeping bag.

    #3674952
    David Thomas
    BPL Member

    @davidinkenai

    Locale: North Woods. Far North.

    How long a coffin can you place in the tent?

    (asking for a friend).

    #3674956
    Roger Caffin
    BPL Member

    @rcaffin

    Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe

    , I find the most egregious inconsistencies in the labeling of tent dimensions.
    Don’t pick on tents. The same criticism applies to many pack brands for capacity, for some sleeping bags over temp ratings and size, etc.
    It’s a competitive capitalist world with few prizes for honesty. All that matters is the bottom line for the next quarter.

    Cheers

    #3674966
    Todd T
    BPL Member

    @texasbb

    Locale: Pacific Northwest

    , I find the most egregious inconsistencies in the labeling of tent dimensions.
    Don’t pick on tents.

    Don’t pick off the most important part of my sentence:  “As a tall guy…”  :-)

    The same criticism applies to many pack brands for capacity, for some sleeping bags over temp ratings and size, etc.
    It’s a competitive capitalist world with few prizes for honesty.

    The (dis)honesty of marketing is a separate matter, I think.  Even if all marketing were forthright and factual, there would be value in standards that allow meaningful comparison across manufacturers and products.

     

    #3675612
    Max L.
    BPL Member

    @mlehman

    I’m relatively new around here, but this sounds like it will be a very interesting series. I love hearing the hows and whys of designs.

    #3676814
    Fred A
    BPL Member

    @bfp

    It may be interesting to take a deep dive into waterproof/breathable rain parkas and the process of “Wetting-Out”.  Is there a way to differentiate captured perspiration versus rain migrating through the material?  This may help to define “Wetting-Out” in quantifiable terms to compare rain parkas.

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