- Dec 21, 2018 at 4:48 pm #3569709Paul bayneBPL Member
I am looking for a “smooth” base layer. I have started to use the Rab Alpha Direct jacket and OR Asdendant Jackets for winter climbing. Due to the nature of the fleece like interior, these jackets bind just a little bit to my base layer (I use the MEC version of an R1 hoody). I’m a looking for a smoother faced base layer to use under these kind of jackets. The patagonia TechFace R1 looks like a good material, only about an ounce heavier than a regular R1, but the hood does not look like it will work as an under-helmet hood like regular R1 styles. A “techface” body with the regular R1 hoody looks ideal.Dec 21, 2018 at 5:55 pm #3569717Paul S.BPL Member
What about a light, breathable wind shirt over your base layer, like the Airshed? It would add warmth but it could be useful if you want to trap that last layer of heat in when you take off your mid layer jacket.Dec 21, 2018 at 7:40 pm #3569727Dale WambaughBPL Member
@dwambaughLocale: Pacific Northwest
I would take your jacket to the local North Face store and see what they have. TNF has been making some nice grid fleece items lately.Dec 21, 2018 at 9:19 pm #3569740Brad RogersBPL Member
@mocs123Locale: Southeast Tennessee
If you can’t find what you are looking for you might experiment with turning an R1 (or similar) inside out.Dec 22, 2018 at 5:26 am #3569777Bruce TolleyBPL Member
@btolleyLocale: San Francisco Bay Area
You could try an expedition weight wool baselayer.
The finish on my mid weight Patagonia Capilene base layers is “smoother”, slippier than exterior of my R1. You could try the Capilene expedition weight base layer.Feb 12, 2019 at 2:52 am #3578002Edward John MBPL Member
I second adding in a smooth and UL windshirt over your winter weight base layer. I use a Montane FeatherLite
Although showing signs of wear now it is quite old, I’ve been using it for at least 6 yearsFeb 13, 2019 at 2:24 am #3578197Ryan SBPL Member
I have a north face summit series l2 fuseform half zip hoodie, polartec grid fleece on the inside and has a polartec hardface outer fabric, I use it as a midlayer with a baselayer underneath. If you hold it up in the light you can see through it due to the grid pattern, so obviously very breathable, if the wind is an issue throw a wind shirt on top and your golden. I actually found it on sale for $112 rather than paying $200. I like the fit 10x better than the patagonia r1. Hope this helps.Feb 14, 2019 at 12:21 am #3578334Paul S.BPL Member
Have you looked at the Nano Air Light? It has a smooth outer, a bit lighter than the R1 and about as warm. The shell is very breathable.Apr 23, 2019 at 4:02 am #3589983Will ElliottBPL Member
@elliott-willLocale: Juneau, AK
Revelate Designs Powerline Hoody sounds like just what you need. It’s replaced my R1. Same long fit. Made in the US by NWAlpine for Revelate. Plus they’re on sale:Dec 23, 2019 at 4:52 am #3623909SIMULACRABPL Member
I’ll second the North Face Summit series L2 Fuseform. The Polartec Hardface smooth exterior is great for layering and did not snag. As usual NF either fits you right or it doesn’t. For me this piece didn’t quite fit me right in certain spots so I begrudgingly returned. It vented off excess heat in high exertion activities like nothing else, but stayed incredibly warm in little movement as well.Jan 30, 2020 at 8:00 pm #3629377Richard FischelBPL Member
Take a look at the nw Alpine black spider hoodie.Feb 17, 2020 at 6:29 pm #3631828dirtbagBPL Member
They stopped selling it.. but if you can get your hands on Patagonia nano air light hybrid hoody.. pure perfection from the material, the hood.. and the thumb holes..Apr 24, 2020 at 11:45 am #3642886Will ElliottBPL Member
@elliott-willLocale: Juneau, AK
I forgot to mention that Grundens sells a hooded top and bottoms in R1 fabric, Pa’lante sells a hooded top, and there are military surplus pullovers in a ‘grid fleece’ that is effectively R1 with more susceptibility to pilling. The later are a slim base layer fit, and cheap enough that you can make your own R1 vest by snipping the sleeves.
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