May 11, 2020 at 12:55 pm #3646332May 11, 2020 at 12:56 pm #3646333May 11, 2020 at 9:47 pm #3646529
There is really nothing specific equipment-wise to the SHR vs other situations. Ideally the base weight could go down at least 2 lbs. A different pack could be less than 22 oz, and the BV 450 is both heavy and won’t allow you many days without resupply. With those short outings, I would not carry both a 10000 and solar. Both the pad and pillow weigh more than I am used to- even sticking with an x-therm, which I increasingly do.
BTW, there may be a lot of fires this year. The constant smoke makes one feel quite ill.May 11, 2020 at 10:46 pm #3646543
Thanks. Those are good suggestions. On the BV450, what replacement do you suggest? I would love to go with an Ursack or something other than a canister, but a canister is required along most of the route. Thanks again for the input.May 11, 2020 at 11:08 pm #3646546
I think the obvious answer is a Bearikade but YMMV. The model depends on how many days between resupplies and how much food you carry. I can get my food down to ~1 liter/day so that’s 6 or 7 days for me in a Scout.May 12, 2020 at 1:59 am #3646555MandarinBPL Member
<p style=”text-align: center;”>Why not bv500</p>May 12, 2020 at 7:00 am #3646572
BV500 is a good choice too. I actually prefer the rounded corners of Bearvaults over Bearikades but you can’t beat the weight or ease of opening on the latter. They are pricey for sure but they rent… Lots of pros/cons.May 12, 2020 at 7:10 am #3646574
Jonathan, I did not have a positive experience on the JMT with a Suntactics solar panel used without a battery. I urge you to test that out quite a bit before committing. Tons has been written about panels and batteries and you could easily start a thread based on this one topic. My personal strategy is to minimize battery usage and recharge using a battery because I know it works.
If I was going to try and rely on a panel I would go with something that has more than 5W of output because you only get that output when you have ideal conditions. I found that being a little off axis or having even light, wispy clouds would trigger my iPhone to shut the recharge cycle off/on resulting in a net power loss.
One common strategy is to utilize a small “lipstick” battery bank plugged into a small panel and let it charge slowly all day with the panel hanging off your pack. I think this is ~3 ounces well spent if you are going to use a panel.May 12, 2020 at 7:17 am #3646575
I would never bring insulated pants and a 20° quilt unless you are very prone to getting very cold and spending a lot of time hanging out at night. I tend to hike until bedtime and then I just collapse into my bivy/shelter. I don’t spend much time lounging around camp.
Overall I think you are being far too conservative with insulated pants, the quilt, XTherm pad… Unless you get cold a lot.May 12, 2020 at 7:26 am #3646577Russ WBPL Member
@gatome83Locale: Southeastern US
Good list. I’m jealous! You could tweak here and there but a pretty good list.
Where is your stove or are you going stoveless?
Here’s a question for all…not a fan of the solar charging with the current offerings..maybe we’ll get there, and I see where you scratched the Anker off. For an extended trip with resupply, can you mail fully charged battery banks, or is that forbidden by the USPS? For this or for a thru hike, could you simply swap out a fresh batt and mail the discharged home?May 12, 2020 at 8:04 am #3646589
I have been going back and forth between the Anker and the solar panel. These comments make me lean more towards the Anker. The EE Torrid pants don’t weigh more than what I normally would take as a base layer long john bottom. Since I am hiking in running shorts, having something to put on the legs on cold mornings or evenings seemed like a good idea. Maybe that is too conservative. I will have to mull that one over. Thanks for all the comments. This is exactly what I need!May 12, 2020 at 10:27 am #3646610JBBPL Member
Yeah, unless you sleep really cold, ditch a lot of the heavy insulation. I did the SHR in 2011 which was a very high snow year, and we made a point of sleeping on top of many passes (Mather, Muir etc) and I was more than happy with only having tights, shorts, a 30 degree bag, and a 3/4 length z-rest.
Also, it’s the Sierra! Rain Pants? Heck no! On over 500 days in the backcountry in the Sierra, I have only ever carried shell pants between October-May. Otherwise you should either be moving and warm enough, or in a shelter if it’s that nasty.
As for food storage/ bear cans – I have personally had a bear shred an Ursack in Yosemite that only had crumbs and two Via packs in it… They are smart and very habituated, so while bear cans suck, it’s not worth the risk.May 12, 2020 at 3:56 pm #3646668jscottBPL Member
@bookLocale: Northern California
You could save almost a pound by simply not taking a phone and recharger.
I understand the phone is your camera and perhaps navigation. How about one person in your group carrying a phone and charger?May 12, 2020 at 10:34 pm #3646774
Renting or buying a Bearikade is the obvious best solution. If you get a large one you can always stuff it with other items if you don’t need that many days from it. Ursacks are not legal over the length of the SHR.
No way you would want to go only solar. The battery…just works. In my experience, solar is only beneficial for extended trips where charing a battery might be a problem, of timing, of access. With solar, iffy cloudy days, or broken wire, or whatever, it is not worth the stress and its weight benefits even in ideal circumstances are marginal.
Much of this advice comes from experience. If that experience is lacking, it is reasonable to consider several off-trail outings before jumping into the SHR. It is not just about equipment lists; things can go seriously bad very suddenly off-trail at high altitudes.May 12, 2020 at 11:04 pm #3646780
Cameron, I’d be interested to hear more about the experiences your are referencing. I have enjoyed your trip reports and photographs in the past but I don’t recall things going bad.
My main concerns are storms and lightning because they are out of my control. A secondary concern is terrain, unstable rock and loss of traction on snow. I feel like these dangers can be mitigated with conservative judgement. Perhaps that is a naive assumption.May 13, 2020 at 7:54 am #3646824
We are definitely taking the off trail aspect of the SHR seriously. I agree that experience is important. I am lucky enough to have the Sierras in my backyard. Even with over 40 years exploring the area between Whitney and Yosemite, the SHR still commands a huge amount of respect and caution. I truly appreciate the help with the gear shakedown.May 13, 2020 at 10:54 pm #3647032
The topic of off-trail dangers probably warrants a new thread. I will give it some more thought.
Simply put, when off-trail, at high-altitude, and alone, every mishap becomes way more life-threatening. Get suddenly drenched? Try drying out and warming up when the sun goes down and it drops below freezing. Lost your way, and your light stops working? Bivouac the night on a narrow ledge on a cliff and hope you won’t roll off. Snow crust gives out, you slip and fall fast and madly and you have to actually depend on the ice axe to stop you from certain death? That one will wake you up for sure.May 15, 2020 at 12:40 am #3647322Eric BlumensaadtBPL Member
@danepackerLocale: Mojave Desert
Very good list and well thought out. I like your list because it has necessary gear, not a tiny “survival list”.
I’ve lightened up considerably with:
PACK-> Osprey EXOS 58
TENT-> TT Notch Li & 4 MSR Ground Hog stakes (CF hiking poles)
SLEEP SYSTEM-> WM Megalite Mummy (overstuffed to 20 F.) and REI FLASH Insulated mattress (15 oz.)
COOK SYSTEM-> T.D. Sidewinder ti cone stove & ESBIT tablets W/ BGET tablet holder, 3 cup Open Country anodized aluminum pot and DIY lid and pot gripper, Lexan long spoon and tiny 2 oz. Gerber lock blade knife
WATER-> SteriPen Adventurer, Katadyn tablets, Camelbak 2 L. hydration bladder and bike bottle
Not much else I need or even want.May 21, 2020 at 7:59 pm #3648538Adrian GriffinBPL Member
Home-made tooth powder instead toothpaste is a weight saver and doesn’t have to go in your bear hang. See my note under the the Repackaging Items thread.
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