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Revised Ferrosi MVTR

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Stephen Seeber BPL Member
PostedOct 16, 2023 at 10:23 pm

Hi All:

The Ferrosi jacket has received increased attention in several threads.  Several months ago, I posted an MVTR test result for Ferrosi that showed exceptional vapor transfer performance.

I want to take this opportunity to post revised MVTR data.  After posting the original data, I eventually found a malfunction in my test instruments that has now been corrected. The revised MVTR for Ferrosi is  3547 grams/m2/24 hours.  This is an excellent performance that is similar to a number of other windshirt fabrics. I have retested other garments that I measured around the time of the Ferrosi test.  This has resulted in some minor revisions.  I have also retested several garments tested in prior periods, producing values similar to the original tests.

Brett Peugh BPL Member
PostedOct 19, 2023 at 1:23 pm

Nice!  Thanks for the effort.  Will there be a revised list coming out at some point?  I would say this puts the Ferrosi at the high end.

PostedOct 19, 2023 at 5:48 pm

Hey Stephen, does that change your thoughts on the following (from your previous article):

“[Ferrosi] does better at avoiding wet skin and layers than the Neoshell jacket I used for skinning. The Neoshell jacket has an air permeability of about 1 CFM/ft2 and an MVTR of 3893 g/m2/24 hours.”

Stephen Seeber BPL Member
PostedOct 23, 2023 at 5:45 pm

Although the Neoshell fabric has a higher MVTR than Ferrosi, I don’t think that tells the whole story about the performance of my Neoshell jacket.  The jacket features were not constructed as I specified.   As a result, the jacket cannot actually perform as well as I expected.  It is unfortunate.  Feature set, construction details, and fit matter.  I think that is why the Ferrosi outperformed the Neoshell jacket last winter.  I only use the Ferrosi for skinning in the winter.  I do not use it for other activities because of its weight and limited packability.

PostedOct 25, 2023 at 10:44 am

@stephen and @David B,

which article are two  referring too?

I ask, because I also have a custom jacket constructed of Neoshell (by Made Apparell), for Ski touring (among other things)

I too was a bit disappointed with the features:

  • The pockets are lined with Neoshell, not mesh
  • the venting side zips, don’t reach into the armpits

The fabric was also thicker than my other Neoshell garments.

Stephen Seeber BPL Member
PostedOct 26, 2023 at 4:42 pm

Hi Tijaard.  I would have to search for the reference.  It is not relevant to your story. I am a fan of electro spun membranes like  Neoshell but I have not seen light, highly packable implementations. My supply of ShakeDry jackets won’t last forever. Neoshell does come with a variety of face fabrics so weight and MVTR will vary.  I tested several and selected the best of those.  The unimpressive performance is not from the fabric. Rather, the construction of the jacket.

PostedNov 7, 2023 at 8:36 pm

Stephen,

I asked because I have a Neoshell jacket manufactured by the custom brand “Made Apparel”.
it has fairly large pockets on the chest(both sides), that are Neoshell, not mesh, so they are doubling up the fabric there.

Although, given your other tests, of mesh pockets really help that much compared to WPB fabric pockets?

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