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Rescue insurance

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AK Granola BPL Member
PostedApr 11, 2023 at 3:13 pm

I know there have been other threads on this topic, which I’ve mostly ignored because I tend to hike in places where rescue costs are covered by state or federal agencies, at least to extract you until they can pop you into an ambulance. This summer however, I’ll be hiking on all kinds of land and rather than investigate all the details, I just reached out to my health insurer and asked if I’m covered.  The response was basically “not much but you’ll never know.”  Insurance being what it is in the U.S., you never really know what you’re going to be obliged to pay, just about anywhere.  Here was their response to my question, also below:

Q. “I’m a backpacker and regularly go into remote locations. Does our plan cover any medical transportation from remote areas in case of emergency, and if so, what are the limitations or extent of coverage? For example, I am going to Grand Canyon next month to do a rim to rim. If I break a leg at the bottom, what does our medical plan cover/not cover?”

A. “If the transportation company is out of network, Premera will only cover 80% of the allowed amount. The allowed amount is the amount that the insurance carrier deems as reasonable for the service. Since out of network companies do not have a contract with your insurance, they are able to bill any amount for their services. If the billed amount is greater than the allowed amount, you will be responsible for this difference. This is called balance billing. Balance billing, sometimes called surprise billing, is a medical bill from a healthcare provider billing a patient for the difference between the total cost of services being charged and the amount the insurance pays. Unfortunately, the allowed amount is determined at the time of the service and TouchCare nor the insurance will have this information prior to it. My sincerest apologies for this.”

I think not having posted prices – and posted allowable prices  -for every service should be illegal.  But since no one cares what I think, I decided to go ahead and get separate insurance, since there is no way to predict what I could be charged. Not wanting to have a medical bankruptcy a few years before retirement!

Bruce Tolley BPL Member
PostedApr 11, 2023 at 3:59 pm

The private air ambulance services in the USA charge literally an arm and a leg. There have been multiple stories in the press about this price gouging.

Many of the national and local mountaineering clubs offer rescue insurance.  For example, “AAC (American Alpine Club) members receive rescue benefits ranging from $7,500 to $300,000 and $5,000 in medical expense coverage depending on membership level.”  I also believe that Garmin InReach has a partner that offers rescue insurance.

Roger Caffin BPL Member
PostedApr 11, 2023 at 4:50 pm

For Australians going overseas, medical insurance is strongly recommended. In some cases we found that the overseas medical costs were covered by the overseas country, in other cases the ordinary (Aus) medical insurance policy would cover the overseas costs. However, none of the Aus insurance policies will cover America without a huge surcharge. And I do mean HUGE.

I lost part of a filling while we were walking in Europe (Austria or more likely Germany) one time. The local Tourist Information Centre recommended a local dentist, so I went there. The equipment was very modern, the treatment was very good, and the cost was . . . zero.

Cheers

DWR D BPL Member
PostedApr 11, 2023 at 10:02 pm

It’s a confusing topic. But one of the big expenses that are not covered unless you have specific insurance for it, is medical transport to a hospital close to home/relatives. Most rescue insurance will cover getting you to the closest hospital… but will not cover moving you closer to home unless it is medically necessary.

PostedApr 12, 2023 at 8:48 am

> is medical transport to a hospital close to home/relatives

Its called “reapatraion coverage” in the trade.

lisa r BPL Member
PostedApr 13, 2023 at 9:32 pm

Curious what rescue insurance company you went with? The first couple I looked at seemed to have so many caveats it left me wondering how useful it would be…

Bruce Tolley BPL Member
PostedApr 14, 2023 at 8:00 am

If you need to be rescued off of El Capitan,  Yosemite SAR will arrange through its inter-service agreements to get a helicopter dispatched from the US Naval Base or even CHP.  The helicopter will take you to the valley floor.  SAR will do triage and hand you off to an ambulance. What your insurance needs to cover is the ambulance to a trauma center (often in Merced, CA or even further).  And usually the ambulance is one of the Air Ambulance services which are not covered by regular medical insurance: the helicopter itself and any services provided by the EMTs to you during transport.

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