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Rechargable CR123 batteries: Li-ion v.s. Li-iron phosphate

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PostedJul 9, 2017 at 11:45 pm

I recently bought a pair off Lithium-iron phosphate rechargeable batteries for my Steripen Adventurer since I have a solar charger box for it. (I never pack the charger box.)

The Li-ion rechargeables are 3.0 volts (as are non-rechargeable Li-ion CR123 batteries)

The Li-iron phosphate rechargeable are 3.2 volts

I’ve read the the Li-iron phosphate batteries alter a bit lower in energy density but higher in<span style=”text-decoration: underline;”> power</span> <span style=”text-decoration: underline;”>density</span>, which is the amount of power you can get from them over time. (i.e. longer  useable charge life)

ALL lithium CR123 batteries I weighed, no matter what type, weighed 1.2 oz. per pair. I’m hoping I get a good charge life from these new Li-Fe phosphate CR123 batteries. Doing a Nevada backpack deer hunting trip in October and an early November Grand Canyon North Rim to South Rim backpack, both trips using the Steripen W/Katadyn chlorine dioxide tablets as backup. Those trips should test the rechargeables.

Adam BPL Member
PostedJul 10, 2017 at 6:50 am

Yep that’s correct, should get better lifespan out of LiFePo4s. Also, they are quite stable (much less likely to spontaneously combust), especially vs Lithium polymer batteries (which we mostly use in drones…as they have good C rating; rate of power output), which are less stable than both (I haven’t seen Lithium polymers in a CR123 or AA or similar yet, though I haven’t looked either, but don’t really know why you’d want to either…).

Some home storage batteries are happening now in LiFePO4, which is a great move. Sonnen (German) do it, very high number of cycles.

Adam BPL Member
PostedJul 10, 2017 at 6:55 am

Oh yeah, another good thing about LiFePO4s are they have fewer issues with state of charge, particularly being left charged at higher states of charge. Lithium Ion and Li Polymer batteries prefer, if not in regular use, to be left at their “storage” charge level. For the polymer ones this is about 3.7-3.8volts per cell. If you leave them fully charged for too long without using them, they start to go puffy and bad (there are other ways of doing that to them as well…). Its for this reason that we’ve put some LiFePO4s in places like flight controllers where we don’t need a high discharge rate or absoluate max energy density, but not having to stress about how we recharge them to maximise their life. Just always recharge them to max after use and then put back in the cupboard. I think this is also a good quality for head torches for most people.

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