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Rab Phantom 3 oz hardshell

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Mike M BPL Member
PostedJun 5, 2022 at 12:08 pm

I’m currently testing one and thus far I’m very impressed.

What’s it not- rain gear if you’re working a fishing ship; rain gear if you’re planning a long thru hike, backpacking trip where the likelihood of rain is high and sustained; any travel that requires a lot of bushwhacking

What it is- rain gear in a daypack when the forecast is favorable, rain gear in a running vest (anytime), if you commute and are on foot much, even a backpacking trip with a favorable forecast.

I was highly skeptical when I saw the weight.  But I’ve had it out in about dozen rain events while hiking local single tracks around here.  The damn thing actually works, despite it’s gossamer fabric.

It packs into a tiny size and even the smallest daypack (maybe even purse!) would have room for it.

I carry a tiny (2 liter) lumbar pack hiking locally and there is plenty of room leftover.  It’s saved my butt 3-4 times already (once in a almost freak snow storm).

Breathable?  Not windshirt breathable (at least good windshirt breathable anyways), but better than any hardshell I’ve used.

The hydrostatic head is listed at 20,000 which I think is fairly accurate, MVTR listed at 20,000 as well- which also seems plausible.

This isn’t going to replace your Goretex Pro jacket, but definitely is piece that has it’s place.

PostedJun 5, 2022 at 4:14 pm

Thanks for the review. Do you find the jacket fits true to size? Often times European shells run a tad small.

I’m not a big fan of pullovers, but at that weight I could get used to it. Would be great for a fastpacking SUL kit.

PostedJun 5, 2022 at 4:27 pm

Often times European shells run a tad small.

Actually, our sizing has been on a sliding scale due to the obesity epidemic in our country. The Europeans have held to the same sizing (mostly) that we once had.

Just a reality dose…

Mike M BPL Member
PostedJun 5, 2022 at 5:26 pm

Thanks for the review. Do you find the jacket fits true to size? Often times European shells run a tad small.

I’m not a big fan of pullovers, but at that weight I could get used to it. Would be great for a fastpacking SUL kit.

definitely size up a size unless you are at the very bottom of your size; I almost always wear a Large and the XL was the right choice- part of it it’s a pullover and they by the nature have to be a little larger

Stumphges BPL Member
PostedJun 5, 2022 at 6:12 pm

Many European brands’ jackets are cut to a “slim fit” pattern. Compared to say, the Arcteryx fit of the 90s and 2000s, which matched the “athletic fit” designation in dress shirts, slim fit patterns are very tight in the chest and shoulders. So even if the Euro brands’ size charts match up pretty close to other brands’, the fit might be tight for some or many. This “slim fit” thing is a style fad, with the emphasis on showing one’s pecs, for some reason.

Many of these uberlight shells are also made for the running crowd, who tend not to wear much under since they are running and generating a lot of body heat, and also trend toward having ectomorphic body types. So meso- or endomorphs will need to size up.

But a 3 ounce shell is pretty awesome, and worth sizing up for:)

Adam BPL Member
PostedJun 12, 2022 at 6:51 pm

Hmm, wonder if this could be a contender for a Rogaining jacket for me. Rarely rains, packing as light as possible and moving fast anyway.

Mike M BPL Member
PostedJun 13, 2022 at 6:50 am

I had it out yesterday with two hours of steady rain (between light and medium rain)- torso was perfectly dry- my shorts were soaked however.  Wore it about ten minutes longer after it stopped raining, gave it a shake and it was dry :)

Brad W BPL Member
PostedJun 13, 2022 at 10:46 am

@bradmacmt vanity sizing. It’s made buying clothes for myself-whose weight doesn’t vary-frustrating. OR Ferrosi pants for example. They changed their fit drastically from 2021 to 2022. This was claimed as an improvement. OR Echo hoody also changed this year. Same size that fit me fantastically is now loose and sloppy. Again-the changed listed as an upgrade. You have a popular product-don’t mess with the design.

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