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Rab Alpine / OR Helium Bivy and some general questions

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PostedOct 12, 2019 at 11:09 am

Hi there,

For lightweight overnighters in stormy winter weather I wanted to get the Rab Alpine Bivy (https://rab.equipment/eu/alpine-bivi). It’s simple, minimalist, uses Event and lightweight.

I now saw that OR improved their Helium Bivy and it’s about the same weight now (https://www.outdoorresearch.com/us/helium-bivy-269292). A recent Outdoor Gear Lab review rated it best (https://www.outdoorgearlab.com/topics/camping-and-hiking/best-bivy-sack).

However, I’ve got a few questions:

The ventilation/breathability section is a bit misleading in my opinion. They give the impression that the Helium is more breathable by stating that Pertex Shield is an improvement in breathability (over the previous fabric) and that the ventilation options are better on the Helium. However, I guess that if you close both, the Rab will breathe better due to the more breathable Event fabric, right?

I’m looking for a good bivy for stormy weather, with wind and snow, and while the Helium has more options (netting, etc) for ventilation, in this scenario it does not make much of a difference?

The hoop is an improvement and provides a bit more comfort. However, if I add a loop at the top of the Rab Bivy, I would get the same result. The Rab is a bit tighter though probably – which again can be better in terms of humidity build-up in the air between my sleeping bag and bivy wall?

If I take a VBL, the Helium wins in terms of overall features… but then again there is still humidity by breathing in the Bivy.

What do you think? Did anyone compare them maybe?

Bruce Tolley BPL Member
PostedOct 12, 2019 at 3:53 pm

I don’ t have experience with either product but do use an older Integral Designs (now Rabb) event bivy occasionally for snow camping under a MLD Duomid.

I think the real tradeoff is the performance of pertex vs event in terms of breathability, durability of the waterproofing, resistance to abrasion. There are a lot of threads here about pertex vs event for shells.  If you are sleeping on snow, I would think 3L eVent would hold up better (although the Rabb bivy’s bottom is not event.  Did you look at the MLD event bivy?

Back to my 3L event bivy. Compared to a water resistant bivy, Unless the nighttime temps drops below 10 degrees F, I find that the Integral Designs bivy can get too hot for me. It has no zipper so occasionally I had to crawl out and sleep on top of it.

Cheers

Overshot BPL Member
PostedOct 13, 2019 at 12:29 am

The Rab Alpine is pretty good. I got one this summer and used it on a few occasions. No condensation inside to note, but I was only sleeping for about 3 hours at a time.

I think Event is a bit superior to Pertex in my opinion. This is only basing it on a OR Helium 2 jacket that seemed to not breath at all.

PostedOct 13, 2019 at 8:10 pm

Thanks guys that sounds good!

I also looked at the MLD event bivy but I don’t like the top opening…

PostedOct 14, 2019 at 6:54 am

Go with event from RAB. I have RAB Ridge Raider event bivy and have never had condensation at all.

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