Questions for Klymit X Frame users: Actual weight, warmth, etc?

I used to use a Klymit X Frame until I switched to a quilt(to drop weight), then I froze(30s typically).  IMO, if you are using this pad you need to use a sleeping bag.  In my situation it saved much more weight to go with a quilt and a Neoair.  I did love the ability to use an X frame over humps and rocks and place these in the cutout areas and then they were unnoticeable. Mine weighed 295 gr WITH the stuff sack and repair kit.

Thanks, John. I do use a sleeping bag so no issues there.

I agree. They do not work so great with quilts. They work pretty well with bags. IFF your bag is big enough, you can use it inside the bag for extra warmth. All the holes help with normal compression from laying on it, so you get an added boost. But, I sort’a gave up on mine. I kept getting tangled in all the holes, since, I am a restless sleeper. The idea was pretty good, though.

I briefly had a Klymit, not the Xframe. The pad is unsuitable for the mountains. It had no R value where the holes are. Maybe just the thing for the tropics. The Neoair you already have is a far superior pad.

IMHO the easiest place to drop weight is just carry 1/2 L of water. Next is lighter weight food.

I tried a klymit X frame and found it extremely uncomfortable. I was not able to sleep well at all, and went back to a neoair. The weight savings is not even close to worth it.

Thanks for the additional replies, everyone. It confirms what I suspected.

And Erica… Great tip on the water! I stopped carrying any at all a few yrs back since I backpack in areas  where the longest stretch between water sources is rarely over 1 1/2 miles. And I’m pretty much maxed out on food in terms of a lightness/filling ratio for me. On my last trip last fall, with snow in the forecast, my total pack weight came in at 9 pounds. My PLB and camera accounted for 1 pound of that. Between my pad and cookset, I could shave off nearly 1/2 pound… but I don’t know that it would be worth the extra fiddling and loss of night time comfort. I could leave my camera behind but really enjoy taking pics and vids… and I don’t own a cell phone which would weigh half as much and would probably suffice. I’d probably do well to just be happy with what I have……