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Question about my pack

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PostedMar 13, 2018 at 2:48 pm

I have been in and out of backpacking since I was a young man.. I’m 59 now and trying to get back into it one more time.

I recently bought an osprey backpack which seems really nice. I was told it would be good for a 7 day trip.

I am trying to load my gear and get this new pack outfitted and ready.

What I’m having trouble with is my sleeping bag fitting into my pack and not having to attach it externally.

 

Pack is Osprey Aether 60 AG ( that is whats on the pack front )

Sleeping bag is a North Face Down bag, about 10 years old.

I have an OR stuff sack that is water proof , also about 10 years old ( probably dinosaur stuff by now )

The sack with sleeping bag loaded wont fit into the pack at all.. Perhaps I need a new stuff sack ?

 

I’ve been away from this stuff for so long I’m afraid out outdated.

Thanks in advance.

Dave

Ross Bleakney BPL Member
PostedMar 13, 2018 at 3:09 pm

The problem probably isn’t the sleeping bag (or the stuff sack) but all the other stuff. A down bag can be squished quite a bit. If your stuff sack is big, it shouldn’t matter (a lot of people don’t even use stuff sacks). Just put the sleeping bag in, push it down, and tighten up the pack.

My guess is you simply have too much other stuff. Best thing to do is to list what you have. In general, that is one of the best ways to “go ultralight”. Personally, I don’t define ultralight as being a particular weight, but simply being aware of the trade-offs involved with my gear. So that means:

1) Weighing everything.
2) Making a list of everything.
3) Considering alternatives.

If you do the first two, and share the information, folks here will suggest all sorts of alternatives to reduce your pack weight and bulk. You may decide than only a handful make sense for you, but that is common.

Alex Wallace BPL Member
PostedMar 13, 2018 at 5:06 pm

The Osprey Aether 60 AG, at 60 liters (3,660 cubic inches), can easily fit all the gear necessary for a 3 season (4th season for some), 7 day backpacking trip. As Ross suggests, it might not be just your sleeping bag. By the way, what’s the temperature rating of the bag? Also, what type of weather, conditions, and terrain are you planning for?

Here’s a pack list published by the gurus of this site that will give you a good blueprint on what should, and more importantly, should not be in your pack:  BPL Backpacking Checklist. Don’t get too hung up on brands, but rather each item. If it’s not on that list, don’t bring it. All the “what if” and extras need to stay home.

 

PostedMar 13, 2018 at 5:12 pm

Others know far more than I do, but my guess is you’ll find you have too much clothing. Follow the advice above, it’s very good.

Also browse the Gear List part of this forum and see what others take, keeping in mind that’s what’s right for them on their hikes.

Your pack is fine and likely your sleeping bag is fine. You’ll get there.

James Marco BPL Member
PostedMar 13, 2018 at 5:50 pm

David, yes, you surely need another stuff sack.An eVent small compression/dry sack is around 7×16 inches but you won’t use that much space. It actually compresses all your sleeping cloths/socks as well as a down bag. Then compresses up to about 10″ long. I have used a small size for my Super Stretch 0 (long) bag. Don’t worry about compressing the snot out of the down. Unless it is very damp or wet, you will be fine for about a week. Compression does not really hurt down. So, the eVent bag will help.

You likely need smaller gear, too. But be aware that some items are actually heavier. Small stuff vs weight vs pack room has been my problem for over 30 years.

1) Learn what to bring for food. Dehydrated, high calorie density food for starters. Look up calorie densities of the foods you would like to bring and reject anything less than 110C/oz or 110C/28.5g. Potato chips are good at ~160C/oz. Don’t be afraid to scrunch them down, you cannot swallow them whole. Rice sides, high density food bars, peanut butter spreads, nut snacks, etc. Your food should get down to about 1.4 to 1.6pounds per day. IFF you have extra “belt-line” you can go lower for up to a couple weeks. You can burn off around 1/2-3/4pound per day at around 1800C-2400C per day. 7 days will mean you loose between 3 and 5 pounds. I usually plan on around 2700-3000C per day and loose a bit of fat in the mean time. That’s what fat is for, storage for high energy exertion like hiking…
2) Small stuff. A small 3.25oz pot, a small 3oz stove, a small tarp (6x9min,) small lights, water treatment, sleeping pads, etc. Sometimes you’ll find that a rolled CCF pad is a LOT larger than a neo-air, even though CCF is lighter.
3) That pack is probably not the best for going light, it weighs over 5pounds. If it can be returned, do so and look at something like Z-Packs at around 20-24oz.
4) Cloths are a big killer for most. As Mike C. says, it is OK to stink when you are hiking. But a quick rinse at night at most campsites with hater works pretty well. Just use your bandana as a wash-cloth, wring it out really well and use it as a towel. Then rinse it out again. This will keep body gunk from stinking and causing sores. No change of pants. Get quick drying nylon ones and rinse these out every day, too. Same for your hiking shirt. You can wear your long johns around for nights in the back country. Or bring 1 pair of UL shorts/swimming trunks. You will need a good sweater/jacket. Get a down sweater for around camp and rest stops. Have a wool sweater otherwise. Wool usually has pours allowing it to breath really well and with a light rain jacket over it will keep you warm down to about 32F while hiking. A couple pair of socks, rinse one pair out while the other pair is drying. Sleeping socks are for sleeping, only…fluffy ones that do not need a lot of durability.
5) Depending on where you travel, select your water bottles accordingly. I use two 1/2L bottles and an empty 2L platty. I use a Steripen to make water as I go. But, unless it is really a hot, dry day, you should be fine with three liters carried most of the time. I keep a spare set of batteries handy, around 3.75oz for the ‘pen and bats. Small, no hoses, quick and easy to use. Yes, it is slightly heavier than a filter or AM drops, but, you don’t need to carry water between watering holes, …well, maybe one or two full bottles.
6) Tents are both heavy and require a bit of fussing around. I use a tarp, but if you are in bug country, you may need a screen tent. My GoLite Nest weighs a pound, my tarp weighs about 17oz. Unless it is bug season, I don’t need the Nest. Cuben/DCF will be a lot lighter for the tarp. And it sets up around and/or over trees, from a lean-to, from a line, etc…super flexible.

You will find it all fits into a 35L pack for 2 weeks at around 25pounds (23-27pounds depending on the weather.)

PostedMar 13, 2018 at 7:58 pm

What is the sleeping bag’s fill power and temp rating? I’m inclined to agree with the others that it probably should fit along with a reasonable kit of other gear, but we can’t know how much it should be expected to compress without knowing more about the bag.

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