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QUESTION: 10d or 20d outside fabric on a quilt?


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    Rick Reno
    BPL Member

    @scubahhh

    Locale: White Mountains, mostly.

    I’m looking at EE Revelation(2o degree XL wide) and thinking 20d.

    Thinking on the plus side, it would be more durable, at the cost of a couple ounces.

    What about handling moisture, though? I’m concerned about moisture both coming and going… would 20d. be more resistant to rain, splashes, etc.? What about moisture getting out, i.e., sweat and other accumulated  moisture from within being able to escape and evaporate?

    Thanks in advance for any insight!

     

     

    #3460491
    Robert Alexander
    BPL Member

    @robmalexander

    Locale: Atlanta

    Conscientious users will fare well with 10d. Kids and people that are less careful with their gear may require a less fragile fabric.

    Desired water resistance and permeability should be a separate consideration after determining the durability of the fabric.

    My two cents. Your mileage may vary.

    #3460578
    Ryan Smith
    BPL Member

    @violentgreen

    Locale: East TN

    10d is surprisingly tough. Normal use is not going to be a problem for it. Either will sufficiently move air, vapor, etc. You would have to ask EE about which one is more water resistant. That depends more on the coating and weave with fabrics so close in denier IMO.

    #3460582
    J R
    BPL Member

    @jringeorgia

    Yes, the 20d would be more resistant to rain, splashes, and most importantly condensation, that’s why EE sells the option of strips of this fabric at the head and foot ends (foot more likely to brush against the inside of a shelter, head more likely to accumulate moisture from your breath).

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    Dan @ Durston Gear
    BPL Member

    @dandydan

    Locale: Canadian Rockies

    I’m with Robert. 10D is plenty durable if you treat it reasonably well. I’ve put hundreds of nights on a quilt with 7D without any observable damage. There’s no need to baby 10D for a quilt, just don’t do anything silly and it’ll be fine.

    20D is more durable, but not inherently any more resistant to rain, splashes etc than 10D. This resistance comes from how the fabric is woven (tight or not), calendared and treated. The same things done to 20D can be done to 10D.

    The weather resistance strips that EE offers do happen to be 20D, but that is not what makes them weather resistant. This comes from the PU coating that is added, which could also be applied to 10D. Considering EE uses treated down, I think there is very little benefit to the weather strips.

    If you think you think you can treat it reasonably well, go 10D. If you think you’ll put a lot of wear on it, go 20D. If you think you’re going to constantly be in really wet conditions then maybe add the weather resistance strips, but even here I think the dry down has you covered.

    #3460705
    Patrick Malcherek
    BPL Member

    @flash

    had an EE Enigma in 10D with the 20D patches. For me the 10D was breathing to much. 20D was much more wind resistant. But that was some years ago, not sure if they changed the fabric till now …

     

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