Please let Ken back
Oct 2, 2016 at 6:16 pm #3429021Stuart .BPL Member
Ken is a real asset to this community. He doesn’t sugarcoat his feedback and nor should he have to. Folks are being polite about this request. If it’s ignored, that will speak volumes to us.Oct 2, 2016 at 6:25 pm #3429022jscottBPL Member
@bookLocale: Northern California
Bring Ken back! We’re all adults and can handle different peoples’ styles. No big deal. This joint needs all the personality it can get.
There are legitimate parameters of content. Style, maybe not so much.Oct 2, 2016 at 6:36 pm #3429023Ben CBPL Member
It’s the right thing to do.Oct 2, 2016 at 9:03 pm #3429046Gary DunckelBPL Member
Yep, Ken has been a positive force in our collective interest in getting BPL back on track, at least for what interests the long-time members. Please bring him back. And while you’re at it, bring back Bob Gross too. Maybe he somehow offended the power(s) that be, but he added content, considered opinions, and color to BPL, which is sorely lacking these days. Why is BPL now being so exclusive? Are corporate egos getting in the way here? Please inform us as to just what BPL is now trying to become–a politically correct website that wants people to just buy/sell gear and your guided hiking trips? Many long time members want to know just what your motives and rules have become. And we want to know just why this site has become so cumbersome to to navigate through, and when it will again be functional.
(I hereby report this post likely as likely having inappropriate content)Oct 2, 2016 at 9:46 pm #3429050Diane PinkersBPL Member
@dipinkLocale: Western Washington
Ken has been a passionate member of this community for a long time. Please bring him back.Oct 2, 2016 at 10:11 pm #3429051Cole CrawfordBPL Member
@cdc43339Locale: Somerville, MA
+1Oct 3, 2016 at 7:30 am #3429078Jennifer MitolBPL Member
@jenmitolLocale: In my dreams....
Seriously. Ken is an institution here, as was -B.G.-
I get it that he could be critical – but as was said above, we’re all adults here and he was just asking questions. Questions, I might add, that are legitimate. Maybe abrasive, condescending, accusatory, and a bit unpleasant, but perfectly valid questions. Whether you agree or disagree with his style is irrelevant – that’s the point of a community, right?
If you keep kicking out people who simply challenge the status quo…then what do we have left???
BRING THEM BACK!Oct 3, 2016 at 7:52 am #3429081JCHBPL Member
Of course, all this assumes that Ken actually wants to come back.
Perhaps his signature is not the only way in which he will choose
to emulate –B.G.– ?Oct 3, 2016 at 9:59 am #3429098Casey BowdenBPL Member
@clbowdenLocale: Berkeley Hills
+1 to bringing back Ken T., Dave T. and Bob G.
I’ve been a part of BPL, mostly silent, since the beginning and know how abrasive/annoying the three above could be. So what! They asked valid questions, answered questions from new and old alike, posted awesome trip reports, noted errors that ought to be fixed, etc.
If they are not allowed to come back I will have to re-evaluate my contributions to BPL and I hope you will as well. Specifically, I used to spend considerable time posting entire trip reports on this site but was happy to do so. I felt it was my way to contribute to the community. Now when I have trip reports on my own personal site I’m not sure I even want to post a link here. I still want to share and contribute to the community but not in a way that benefits Mr. Jordan. I’m under no illusions that my trip reports alone amount to anything, but aggregated, the wealth of knowledge in the trip reports on BPL is simply amazing/inspiring.Oct 3, 2016 at 10:32 am #3429113Katherine .BPL Member
the tone set by banning him does damageOct 3, 2016 at 10:52 am #3429119Ryan JordanAdmin
@ryanLocale: Central Rockies
Thank you for writing in and offering your support. I know that when a member is banned, it’s confusing for some. I won’t go into the specifics about the reasons for banning any member – I only communicate directly with that member and the goal of that communications is always to work through the conflict privately and restore the member’s posting privileges.
I’ll be communicating more on the topic of forums and moderation soon, which I hope will clarify some of my heart and vision behind the forums. This community and this company means the world to me and I don’t take any of this conflict lightly.
Thanks for your patience as we work through these challenges. They’re hard, and I wish to handle them with great care and consideration.Oct 3, 2016 at 3:22 pm #3429163Cayenne RedmonkBPL Member
@redmonkLocale: Greater California Ecosystem
+1 Casey, well put.Oct 3, 2016 at 5:17 pm #3429183
Thanks for the post Ryan. We hope all will be resolved and look forward to having Ken back.Oct 3, 2016 at 5:41 pm #3429189Jay WilkersonBPL Member
@parkerjwLocale: East Bay
We need KEN back!!!Oct 3, 2016 at 5:56 pm #3429193Oct 3, 2016 at 6:28 pm #3429198W I S N E R !BPL Member
it sounds like they are working on it.
Is he having a parole hearing?
I wonder what the conditions of his release will be…Ankle bracelet? Strict curfew? Perhaps he’ll get off with just a stern talkin’-to from the Warden and credit for time served.
Casey- well spoken.Oct 3, 2016 at 6:42 pm #3429200
^^^ I meant that it sounds like they are communicating .Oct 3, 2016 at 10:26 pm #3429234rubmybelly!BPL Member
@sleepingLocale: The Cascades
“I meant that it sounds like they are communicating“Oct 4, 2016 at 7:41 am #3429266Monte MastersonBPL Member
@septimiusLocale: Changes Often
NMOct 4, 2016 at 6:09 pm #3429368jscottBPL Member
@bookLocale: Northern California
Ken is the heart of BPL.
well,let’s not go overboard. Ken is perhaps the femur, the meniscus, the elbow, the spleen of bpl. all good and important things. No one person is “the heart”.Oct 4, 2016 at 7:23 pm #3429386
In case I get kidnapped on one of my adventures….I am sending Doug a list of those I would like to negotiate my release and those that I would rather not try ;)Oct 4, 2016 at 7:28 pm #3429387rubmybelly!BPL Member
@sleepingLocale: The Cascades
“Ken is the heart of BPL.”
Hmmmmm. I always thought he resembled something just below the waist. Either side works….Oct 4, 2016 at 7:31 pm #3429391
Apparently we are all the spleen,the elbow, the heart, the groin. Butt…there is only one
@seeyabye you are fast….great(ish) minds think alike :)Oct 4, 2016 at 10:05 pm #3429416Marc EldridgeBPL Member
@meldLocale: The here and now.
Ryan, let Ken back in. I know he has been critical of you in the past and probably will be in the future but he was a valuable asset to this community and BPL will be the much the worse for his being banned.Oct 4, 2016 at 10:18 pm #3429420David ThomasBPL Member
@davidinkenaiLocale: North Woods. Far North.
If we all endeavored to be the brain, heart and soul; but not the spleen, bile ducts, nor colon we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
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