Please help me with a 30L Frameless Pack Decision

Try Yar Gear.  Does not have all of the items you want.  Dandee you could order custom and get everything. I don’t think most frameless packs will have daisy chain unless you are looking for it on the shoulder straps.

DCF version for sale on Reddit ULgeartrade.

Internal volume is about 28L on the 38L drifter.  There is a review of this pack on this website if you do a search.

 
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Shoulder strap chains would be great.  I’ll give a look.

ZPacks Sub Nero https://zpacks.com/products/sub-nero-ultra-30l-backpack

MLD Hell?

You might find a used Mountain Laurel Designs Burn @ 35L. It ticks all the boxes except for price and a bungee to hold the sit pad.

The more affordable MLD Hell @ 27L has wrap around pockets. (Edit: Chris posted while I was typing_

I have two packs around that size and I like both of them a lot. The GG Kumo carries loads so well and has very usable side pockets. The MLD Hell has been my daypack since they started making them again (last November?). The shoulder straps are so good and the size is great. It’s a little smaller than the Kumo and definitely a sturdier build.

Oh and I really like my Atom+. The frameless Atom 30 is $170 in their grid fabric and ships in 4 weeks. Build quality is superb here too and comes with more bells/whistles if you like bottom and shoulder strap pockets. Very nice shoulder straps.

Zimmerbuilt is another

I have two LiteAF Ultra Curve packs that I really like.  Very comfortable.  Excellent backpacks. It’s rare to have any available without a long wait.  For $200 I would definitely consider this…..

https://liteaf.com/ultralight-packs/the-multi-day-35l-pack/

I’ve moved to carrying my ZPacks Nero for my day hikes and weekend hikes.  It weighs less than 1/2 ounce more than the Sub-Nero and the extra size provides a little more flexibility.  The Nero ticks your boxes too…

Thanks. Wound up getting the new HMG Elevate. With pockets 29l and I used my veteran discount. Didn’t want to use it because I have bought several packs from them and didn’t want to feel like I was using it a little too much but I still have them all.

I am very grateful for what they offer for veterans.

Best pack I’ve ever used. It hugs me like a glove. https://www.volpioutdoorgear.com/product-page/fastpack-30

I think the Sub Nero checks all of your boxes.

Dan Durston will release a frameless 30 liter pack towards the end of the year, if you can wait. Hot bonded and a new material.

@ Paul

Let us know how the new pack works out.  You say “I have bought several packs from them [HMG]…” Presumably they were all bigger than 30L.

I’ll definitely have an AAR on it.