pants/bottoms for 20-30 degree nights (sleeping)?

Ryan, I really like my Kuiu Peloton 97 zip-off pants (4 oz, medium) at those temps. Worth a look.

Thanks for the suggestion Steve!  It looks like that item is currently unavailable and I would ideally prefer something a little cheaper if possible, but I will look into similar alternatives.

I used to use a pair of cheap fleece pj pants from Walmart. I removed some fabric down the sides on the legs and re sewed them so they were a closer fit. I think when I got done they were ~7 ounces. Not as warm for the weight as puffy pants (which I since upgraded to) but a whole lot cheaper and they got the job done.

The Torrid Apex pants look ideal, 6.11oz for a medium, but pricey.

My dilemma is that sometimes that single pair of base layers is not quite warm enough at night for me. When the temps dip below 30 degrees or so, I have sometimes needed a little more.

My question is – what’s your sleeping bag?

UPDATE: Thanks for all the feedback. I just went and bought some grid fleece baselayer pants that were on sale at sierra trading post. I got them on the large size, so even if they are not warmer than my current base layers, I will hopefully have better success doubling up the layers

Ok, but what’s your sleeping bag/quilt?

I have founds that sleeping in an almost-warm-enough sleeping bag and wearing extra clothes is just not as comfortable, and I don’t sleep as well, as when the bag is adequately warm. A down bag with 5 more oz of down (with adequately sized baffles) will be warmer than adding 5 oz. leggings, by far. Of course, there are other issues, like the obvious cost of buying a warmer sleeping bag, having a place to store another sleeping bag, rampant consumerism (!). And, of course, the extra leggings make it possibly more comfortable when hanging out at camp. I hope you find a good solution that works for you!

I just got a pair of Polartec Alpha Direct pants from Skylight Gear (on instagram). Not often available, but FarpointOG.com has some with a 5 week lead time. This material just seems awesome expecially as sleep pants. Mine weight 3.47 oz which is insane for fleece that offer considerable warmth under a shell. Its super breathable as well, and lets wind in if there isn’t a shell (or sleeping bag) over it.

I have founds that sleeping in an almost-warm-enough sleeping bag and wearing extra clothes is just not as comfortable, and I don’t sleep as well, as when the bag is adequately warm. A down bag with 5 more oz of down (with adequately sized baffles) will be warmer than adding 5 oz. leggings, by far.

Paul, your answer was the entire reason for my question as to which bag/quilt the OP is using. I’m in the same camp.

Dancer warm up wind pants. Can do double duty and trap enough heat to help with bag that isn’t warm enough.

Another approach is to try wear downing booties and a down beanie — I’ve found keeping your head and feet warm does a lot to keeping your whole body warm. Just got back from the Sierra and temps weren’t nearly that low there the past week, but probably down to about 40F at elevation, and I was very toasty in down booties and beanie and the same Costco Paradox bottom baselayer you have (11% merino, right?) under my 30F EE quilt on a TAR NeoAir Xlite pad. The booties are less than 2 oz, the beanie you’ll probably carry one anyway and possibly heavier if not down already. That combo has a great warmth per ounce return.