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Packrafting clothing you'd actually carry

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Chris L BPL Member
PostedAug 19, 2019 at 8:25 pm

This fall, my wife and I will be doing a two week backpack/packraft trip in Idaho. We’ve done three other such trips, all two weeks in length and done in late September/early October. We typically packraft 5-6 days of the trip and backpack the rest. We limit our packrafting to Class 3 or less (Middle Fork and Main Salmon) with moderately cold water and air temps sometimes in the 50s. So not cold by some standards, but cold and splashy enough that if it’s raining or you swim, you’re not that happy.

We’ve always struggled with what to wear packrafting on these trips. Even with a resupply mid-trip, it’s still a struggle to keep our pack weights down. What we’ve worn on previous trips are Kokatat dry pants with socks (around a pound per pair) with an ultralight rain jacket. This protects from some splashes, but in a swim you’re going to get wet. I’ve only swam once on one of these trips, but the temps were in the mid 50s and raining – it wasn’t all that fun and I spent the night around a campfire trying to dry out. We’ve become conservative about what we’ll run vs portage, especially if the weather is cold, which takes a little of the fun out of packrafting. So far we haven’t tried drysuits – seems like the lightest you can find these days is +/- 2.5 pounds and the thought of carrying one is painful. Personally, I couldn’t hike in a drysuit with the top up, so I’d also need to bring a rain jacket. Maybe with the top rolled down, it would be ok as rain pants.

I’m not sure there are any magic bullet answers here, but I’d be curious what’s worked for folks on similar trips. Researching on the web, most folks seem to go with a dry suit, but I wonder how many are packing these significant distances. I haven’t found any superlight drysuits since Alpacka stopped making them. The Anfibio suits look interesting and somewhat light, but are hard to order from the U.S. and a somewhat unknown commodity. I’ve considered adding a dry top, but seems like the combined weight of a dry top and pants approaches a dry suit.

Seems like the market would support more specialized packrafting clothing – but maybe I’m delirious.

PostedAug 20, 2019 at 12:50 am

I participated in the Alaska Mountain Wilderness Classic a few times, long before there were lightweight dry suits (or Alpacka rafts for that matter….I’ll tell you about paddling the Sevylor Death Raft some other time).  If you didn’t have a Sherpa raft, you were sitting in water all the time.  I wore base layers under raingear, neoprene socks in running shoes, neoprene gloves, adding fleece and/or puffy top layers as needed.  Fleece hat, neck gaiter were also standard for me.  I was pretty much cold all the time because I was sitting in water, but we were in colder air and water temps than you’re looking at.  Many folks stopped every couple hours to build a fire to warm up before proceeding or at least to run around on shore for a few minutes to warm up.  We just assumed we’d be wet while we were on the water.  If you had a good raft and it wasn’t raining and you didn’t take a swim, this outfit kept you fairly warm and dry.  You might consider VBL tops and bottoms under your base layer.

Chad Lorenz BPL Member
PostedAug 20, 2019 at 7:05 pm

When I expect a combined air and water temp to be below 100*F, I bring a drysuit for even easy whitewater. I have a Patagonia Storm Racer and a pair of homemade silnylon rainpants that together weigh about 10oz. I find a drysuit mandatory now for colder trips: stopping, collecting firewood and trying to get warm again doesn’t seem worth it to me anymore. I’d be surprised if you bought drysuits and regretted the decision. I’ve carried my Kokatat GFER hundreds of miles through AK and Canada on longer trips. FWIW, the drypants/top combo or even dry bibs/top combo seems to still have you getting wetter than a full suit. Most guides I work with that have tried the combo ultimately buy a drysuit.

Chris L BPL Member
PostedAug 23, 2019 at 1:33 pm

Thanks Chad, the combined air and water temperature rule seems like a good one. Sounds like I may just need to buck up and carry the extra weight!

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