Nunatak Skaha Down Sweater vs PHD Yukon Down K Series

[jose c]

Hi.
I am trying to choose between this two down jackets.
https://www.phdesigns.co.uk/yukon-down-pullover-k-series?osCsid=80unhglgq5lagdm8ho32ov5c73
https://nunatakusa.com/skaha-ultralight/138-skaha-down-sweater-classic-version.html

Both are ultralight, have baffled box construction and just a short zipper (sweater-like)
PHD does not disclose the fill weight, so I can’t compare it.
PHD has 1000FP (EU standard), Nunatak 900FP
Nunatak Skaha has Ultrashell (40 gsm)
PHD Yukon has Pertex Quantum (28 gsm)

Both weight 350 grams but the difference of FP should mean that the Yukon should give more warmth for the same weight.
But the difference in shell should mean that the Skaha should give more warmth for the same weight.

Is Ultrashell better (more durable, more water resistant, more vapor diffusion?) than Pertex Quantum, in a way that this add of weight should mean something positive?

Which one would you go for?

thanks guys

Jose

[Roger Caffin]

PHD has 1000FP (EU standard)
I have really serious doubts about the honesty of this claim. IDFL might claim an FP of 1000, even though that is based on very dubious ethics, but the European standards shun the IDFL gimmicks and rate down with lower figures. In general, the IDFL figures are just marketing spin.

Cheers

[Brad Rogers]

I generally like Nunatak gear and think they do really nice custom work, but I tried a Skaha one time and just didn’t care for it. I bought it used so take that into account, but I didn’t care for the sleeves and I couldn’t get the fit quite right (if you were buying new, this wouldn’t be an issue). It was also overweight by a few ounces (of course the original owner could have specified overfill or something else special). It was SUPER puffy though and would be really warm.

The PHD looks nice, but I take issue with them not providing fill weights for any of their gear. For some reason, even though I know they have no obligation to divulge that information, I feel like it is the right thing to do.

All in all, I think I would get a custom Skaha from Nunatak and get them to make you exactly what you want.

Another option might be Goosefeet Gear if you are looking for another option.

[Stephen M]

I have owned both a Skaha and a couple of PHD pieces and a Gooses Feet Parka, they are all close enough to each other.

The PHD kit is probably a bit more refined but not by much.

 

 

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