Nunatak Gear Bears Ears 50 Review
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Jun 25, 2021 at 9:00 am #3720033Andrew MarshallBPL Member
@andrewsmarshallLocale: Tahoe basin by way of the southern Appalachians
Companion forum thread to: Nunatak Gear Bears Ears 50 Review
The Nunatak Gear Bears Ears 50 (MSRP: $330, ~28 ounces / 794 g) is an innovative frameless pack designed specifically to accommodate bear canisters. It features a unique water bottle storage system, optional shoulder-strap pockets, a removable foam back panel, a floating hipbelt, a large wrap-around exterior pocket, and a closed-cell foam pad attachment system.Jun 25, 2021 at 4:32 pm #3720098Dustin VBPL Member
That looks like a really interesting design. It reminds me of the old frame packs with a big sleeping bag lashed to the bottom. Don’t know how they pulled this off frameless.
I have a bunch of questions that I hope are answered in the long-term review, but I ask this now; did the water bottle holsters bounce a lot?Jun 26, 2021 at 4:04 pm #3720177Scott NelsonBPL Member
@nlsscottLocale: Southern California and Sierras
What was it like to set the pack down on the ground? Did the bear can get beat up? Did the water bottle pockets have to splay out or go on their sides? Did the pockets want to discharge the bottles when put down on the ground? Was it ever slippery if you had to sit down with the pack on? Like if you had to sit down to descend a big rock drop-off, would the bear can scrap or slip on the rock behind you?
It seems like the design would benefit from aluminum stays that extended vertically down to the “can” level from standard “load lifter” height. More load carrying and no instability between the can and pack.
I’m intrigued by this pack.Jun 26, 2021 at 6:40 pm #3720187nunatakBPL Member
Andrew purchased this pack at full price without any fuss.
Scott: Using it will scratch your bear can more than if it was fully inside, obviously. Down climbing face out will scratch the can. Sitting down with the pack on should be fine.
Pockets do not drop bottles when putting the pack down, or bending over, or scrambling, or glissading. If still concerned a small loop of shock cord can easily be tied to the holder and slipped over the top of the bottle.
Part of the reason the bottles are easily retrieved, yet does not fall out, is the fluid joint between the holder and hipbelt that keeps them closer to vertical independent of the user’s movements. So, to answer Dustins question, yes they do swing around. This is barely noticeable when hiking, very noticeable when running.
When we first developed this concept in 2016 it was a framed pack. Unfortunately it was too complex to built. Later, some improvements in design allowed a frameless version to work as well if the user’s base weight is under 12 lbs or so (not including the canister)Jun 27, 2021 at 11:31 am #3720234Albert NBPL Member
That bear can looks like a Bearikade? Is it the Weekender?Jul 1, 2021 at 12:52 pm #3720747H SBPL Member
Just returned from a ten day trip on the Tuscarora Trail carrying a Nunatak Gear Bears Ears 50 prototype that I purchased. With the Tuscarora having bears, rock scrambling and blow downs, this was the perfect choice. Carried up to 27 pounds comfortably. To address some of the previous posts, I found that 750 ml water bottles did not bounce nor come out easily. When placing the pack on the ground, I did have to ensure that the water bottles where not under the bear can but this did not become a nuisance. Of course you need to be careful placing the bear can on the ground, but was surprised that my Bearikade Weekender did not really show any major scuffs or wear even after several “trail stunts”. On my prototype, there are three external pockets versus the one larger wrap-a-round pocket on the current model. This revision is a great idea to allow a wet tarp to be dried out during the day. As always, Nunatak sewing and finish work is the best. Would buy again. “Jake Blues” AT ’86Sep 26, 2021 at 7:04 am #3728163Dominick TBPL Member
So, I purchased the Bears Ears after hearing Andrew’s initial review. Before purchase, I contacted Jan at Nunatak to ask about the availability of hipbelt pockets since I would miss them terribly if not present and since they seem to have some modular options. He said he could fabricate some and voila…I now have the Bears ears with what will hopefully be prototype hipbelt pockets. It depended on the size hipbelt – small would not fit but larger sizes have enough room. They are large enough for my Sony point and shoot camera and some Larabars. This reminds me of my old external frame Boy Scout pack with the bear can where my 6lb cotton sleeping bag used to go. I have to say that working with the people at Nunatak was wonderful – this is a great and innovative product. With a bear can in place, it fits into the small of my back and is super comfy. Very well made construction. Andrew thanks for a very thoughtful review and update as I don’t know I would have come across this pack had it not been for your discussion on podcast. I really appreciate it. DomNov 30, 2021 at 9:45 am #3733533Dan RBPL Member
Thanks for the review, Andrew. It was the final confirmation that led me to purchasing the pack. I live in the Blue Ridge of Virginia and was getting reeeeeally tired of rushing to camp to hang a bear bag before dark, my most hated camp chore. Figured I would just eat the weight of a bear can for simplicity of life (oh how far I’ve come from 4oz bear bags), but after taking this pack out for its first trip, I’m completely sold. It rides so very nicely and the bear can (Bearikade Weekender) feels much less than its weight. Water bottle holders are the best I’ve ever used, super simple and convenient. Paired with an HMG Versa I don’t miss hip belt pockets. And just plopping everything into a bear can after dark and setting in the bushes was amazing! Thanks for the review.Nov 30, 2021 at 11:33 am #3733536Tom MBPL Member
This pack has me intrigued. I dont use a Bear Cannister because of the abundant trees (bear hangs) in N.W. Montana, however using the carved out space for a packraft seems legit. My initial thoughts would be it puts the raft in a core position, keeps the raft separate for easy deployment, and allows for a wet raft to be packed up without effecting other gear. Thoughts anyone?Nov 30, 2021 at 12:33 pm #3733543Duane HallBPL Member
@pkhLocale: Nova Scotia
I am intrigued with the packraft possibilities as well. You would have to have a sturdy protective cover for the raft I think. I also think I would like a little more internal volume, but still . . . an interesting concept that I will be following.Nov 30, 2021 at 2:17 pm #3733546
re packraft: The ‘pocket’ or really it’s an an open harness or holster that used the shaped bottom of the pack to form the harness/holster and so anything in that ‘HH’ is completely external to the body of the pack and not getting anything wet except maybe your rear end. If the packraft fits within the parameters of the HH you should be good to go with that idea. And yes the position of the harness/holster and whatever is in it is completely secure and very well balanced.
As for size; ‘bear’ in mind that whatever is in the canister or HH is now not in your pack so that can be a lot of extra CC’s.
Gotta walk the dogs before sunset but I’ll try and send a couple of photos to illustrate better soon.Nov 30, 2021 at 2:58 pm #3733548Tom MBPL Member
The 35 l main plus whatever you can shove in the back panel is perfect size for my kind of party. Maybe I missed it but is the 28 oz the stripped down tally?Nov 30, 2021 at 7:17 pm #3733564jscottBPL Member
@bookLocale: Northern California
No one’s mentioned a bounce from the bear canister, so I assume that it doesn’t. It’s hard for me to fathom how that is, but I’m unclear from the pictures how the canister attaches from the bottom to the pack.Dec 1, 2021 at 6:55 am #3733579
^^ Hmmm that’s a good question. Would a canister in the bottom of a suitably sized and long/deep pack bounce around?
In this case the bottom of the pack main body is cut, sewn and shaped on the bottom to form an arc that fits around a cylindrical shape and within certain limits (the arc must have a radius in the ball-park of the cylinder) is snugged tight by the well designed strap system and is thereby not just attached but encompassed within the pack body.
Then or also the strap system is incorporated into the very comfortable and load transferring hip belt so the canister is snugged to the belt . The hip belt is really nice. So anyway the canister probably moves less than it would somewhat loose in a pack though last time I did that this spring with an ‘old school’ Go-lite Gust. I don’t remember that being a problem/issue. What I do remember is how much better I like the easy access to the canister instead of having to completely empty the pack to get to anything considered smellable and thereby stored in the canister. This pack also transfers wayyy better to the hips.
I’ve used another canister strap system which attaches to the top of my MLD Burn several times so have a little experience with the problem; and it worked after a fashion but despite strapping it on tight as Dick’s hat band it flopped around. This system holds still and places the canister in a much better position.Dec 1, 2021 at 10:47 am #3733599Zack LBPL Member
Would the bottle pouch fit a variety of hipbelts or is it dependent on features on the Nuntak packs?Dec 1, 2021 at 8:05 pm #3733624
^^ The bottle holder is designed specifically to fit on belt loops set to align the bottle at like a 30-40 degree angle. Could copy the idea and align it to work on another belt maybe.
A couple of photos attempting to explain the canister attachment. The arc bottom of the pack is @ 9″ and has a fabric extension for another 5″ for a total of 14″ of fabric encapsulating the canister. The vertical circumference straps are sewn to the fabric of the extension and the pack thereby fixing the spacing of the straps. With the aftermarket rig I used with the MLD Burn the straps tended to wander no matter how tight. These can’t wander. The canister pictured is just over 28″ in circumference so basically half wrapped in fabric.
The vertical straps are sewn to the fabric extension and the bottom of the pack completing the circle and also looped through the belt. The horizontal strap is looped through both dual vertical circumference straps, sewn horizontally across the fabric extension and also looped through the belt on each side of the pack/canister. The belt is thereby attached to the pack body by the fabric extension and the straps. This sets the canister height.
One could assert that this arrangement is at least as secure as having the canister wedged in place by items stuffed around it inside the pack, keeping in mind the potential for items above a canister inside a pack to shift around and loosen up.Dec 21, 2021 at 7:20 pm #3735325John DBPL Member
I’ve just completed an AT thruhike with the bears ears for the last 1300 miles, using a bearikade can. There’s definitely no bouncing issue. The weight distribution is excellent; you do have to make some daily/occasional pack adjustments depending on food and water weight, as the pack carries differently since the ‘waist weight’ can be as much as 10 lbs (2l water and 6 or occasionally more lbs food), less as you head toward resupply or if you can go with less water. I would guess a pack raft would fit fine in place of a 4-8 lb bear can filled with food. I found it to be a very comfortable carry, and very durable.Sep 10, 2022 at 8:36 pm #3759756baja bobBPL Member
Bumping this thread. Anyone using this pack as their regular pack without a canister? I think you need some weight in the bottom with the framed version. Corresponded with Jan and thinking aboubt the framed version and doesn’t necessarily require something in the bottom of the pack.Sep 11, 2022 at 12:09 pm #3759784Chris KBPL Member
I carried the framed Bears Ears All-Season for a little over 100 miles on the Colorado Trail with an Ursack XL.
It’s spacious, comfortable with heavier loads (~40 lbs), and well organized. I found it carried a heavier load just as well as a lighter load.
I haven’t used it without anything strapped to the bottom, so can’t comment on that. But even when the Ursack was down to one day of food and some small misc gear, it carried fine. I do think the ideal carry is with a canister.
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