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New Winter Pack Recommendations

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Joe M BPL Member
PostedFeb 13, 2021 at 6:36 pm

With this year’s winter hiking season drawing to a close, I’ve finally got my kilt dialed in for my winter mid-Atlantic hikes. Now I just need a better pack.

Primarily I’m running an older Osprey Exos 58, the model with the hip belt pockets. Volume wise, it fits everything I need for a long weekend with lows down to 20. It’s a good pack, but the perimeter frame is just not as comfortable as I would like. For colder seasons or long trips where I want more gear, I have a military surplus CFP-90. I LOVE this pack and the twin stay internal frame. But at over 5 pounds dry, it’s overkill for most trips. (I’ve carried 70+ with this pack and it didn’t flinch)

so I’m looking at a new pack for winter. Preferably in the 60-70L range. I would prefer another twin stay, but I can’t find many options.

I have a  short list that I’m looking at, but open to suggestions:

Twin stay packs:

HMG 4400, at the top of the volume range, has good reviews, but I would almost rather have a pack made from Xpac as opposed to DCF

SWD Long Haul 50, the lower volume end, I might have to trim a little more to get things to fit. But the customization and reputation is very good.

Perimeter:

Seek Outside Flight, I’m really intrigued by SO’s designs and have been eying them due to their reputation for load hauling capability. I’ve been following a thread here and it seems pretty capable, but I’m at the smaller end of the hip belt range and I’m concerned it might be an issue. Xpac/spectra combination is a plus for me.

Twin stay sheet (hybrid)

ULA Catalyst, this is the most back and forth for me. Pros: good volume, twin stays, great reputation, some customization. Cons: fabric isn’t quite as water resistant, it’s the heaviest pack of the four.

I’m open to input from any of these, especially from someone who has found they like the twin stay style frame. I’m also interested in any alternatives in the same range, especially if I’m overlooking a twin stay pack. I am NOT looking for frameless, I already have a Zerk 40 for my 3-Season pack, this is specifically for winter where I’ll need the extra volume and weight capacity.

Thanks for any help and input.

Bonzo BPL Member
PostedFeb 13, 2021 at 7:06 pm

What’s your budget?  An Alpine Machine 60 would fit the bill perfectly, if you feel like spending major coin.  There’s also the McHale option, as recently discussed.

Iago Vazquez BPL Member
PostedFeb 13, 2021 at 7:07 pm

Another two options in the 60-70 would be Exped Lightning and Sierra Design Flex Capacitor 60-75L

I believe you can get a Catalyst in X-Pac…

There’s a thread here about a 70L SWD pack and some pics that don’t show much on their site.

Joe M BPL Member
PostedFeb 13, 2021 at 7:22 pm

Yeah, a $1,000 McHale, although a great option, isn’t financially. Probably about $350 which is what the HMG comes in at.

I should’ve mentioned that, thanks.

Joe M BPL Member
PostedFeb 13, 2021 at 7:33 pm

Iago,

 

Thanks, I forgot about Sierra Designs and hadn’t heard of the Exped lighneting. I saw the thread for the SWD 70, just worried it will be out of my price range. I’ll keep up with the thread.
thanks for the suggestions.

Brian Horst BPL Member
PostedFeb 15, 2021 at 11:21 am

In my search for a winter pack, I picked up both an Exped Lightning 60 and an Elemental Horizons Aquilo. Both carry comfortably and have the volume for those bulky winter loads. I haven’t decided which one I like better yet, and still alternate between the two. I probably lean more towards the Aquilo if I think its going to be the type of trip where I’m strapping snowshoes/crampons onto the pack, and the Lightning if it’s more just straightforward bulky items and I wouldn’t need to be doing so much of that.

Joe M BPL Member
PostedFeb 15, 2021 at 6:30 pm

Brad, didn’t you test the flight? Do you think the extra weight of the Divide is worth it? I was actually considering the Gila before the Flight was released.

David Colbert BPL Member
PostedFeb 17, 2021 at 8:29 pm

I love my HMG SW 4400. It’s the perfect winter pack for me.  Tons of space inside, huge outside pockets including the back pocket which can swallow a pair of snowshoes.  They have a great add on pouch for crampons too. The Dyneema fabric is very tough and waterproof.  It carries very well with 30 pounds of gear and holds all my bulky down gear easily.

PostedMar 2, 2021 at 10:43 am

I love my HMG NorthRim with the woven dyneema (like the McHale Spectra) for bottom, front, side and hip belt pockets. And heavy 5.0 ounce dyneema for the body. No hydration port means no openings for water penetration. Worth the additional fee over the SouthWest model. Has same diameter as the 2400, making it nimble. Yet has 65Liter capacity with the front pocket.  This is the pinnacle pack from Hyperlite after having Southwest, Junction.

Brad Rogers BPL Member
PostedMar 2, 2021 at 10:52 am

The Flight carried well up into the mid to high 30 pound range which is more than most of us carry.   It’s a smaller pack – probably around 50-55 liters hence the recommendation for the Divide.

If you carry 30lbs or less most of the time the Flight and if you carry 30 lbs or more most of the time the Divide.

If you need a larger volume than the Flight but don’t carry more than 30 pounds often the new 70 liter SWD pack looks interesting.  Nothing beats the Seek Outside Divide/Unaweep suspension for carrying weight though, so if you regularly carry north of thirty pounds, that’s the first thing I would try.

Packs fit people differently though.  David and AI-G above obviously like their HMG packs, but I’ve tried two HMG packs through the years and didn’t find either comfortable.

Rick Reno BPL Member
PostedMar 2, 2021 at 11:44 am

I Love my ULA Circuit and at 68 liters it’s plenty big. Mine (XL/L) weights about 40 oz which doesn’t seem excessive and it carries well. I wouldn’t put 70 lbs in it as you did your old Army pack, but then again I wouldn’t want to carry 70 lbs! I wouldn’t sweat the whole waterproof question as I doubt any of them are… and the robic 400 is damn near bulletproof.

Just my 2¢…

PostedMar 2, 2021 at 2:00 pm

I discovered the key with HMG packs is to fix the aluminum stays. The ones I have seen are bent on top inward to the shoulder. The 3200 NorthRim that I bought from Feathered Friends and the 4400 SouthWest that I recently got from Hyperlite both had aluminum stays bent inward. I shaped them to match my McHale LBP40, made all the difference in distributing the weight properly, evenly between back and hips. And no more pinching back of the neck and shoulders.

 

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