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NeoAir XLite no longer Made in USA
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Aug 8, 2016 at 3:59 pm #3419031
Noticed this on a new purchase today … Ireland of all places.
Aug 8, 2016 at 4:21 pm #3419039Thermarest have had a distribution centre/factory in Midleton Ireland for over 30 years .
It employs about 120 people there.BTW, why Ireland ?
My guess is because :
A major draw for US firms is Ireland’s low 12.5% corporation tax rate and numerous controversial tax breaks. The government has promised to phase out the latter.
Aug 8, 2016 at 4:31 pm #3419045Interesting …. if I recall the XLites distributed in the U.S. formerly said something along the lines of  “Assembled in the USA of internationally sourced components”
Aug 8, 2016 at 5:02 pm #3419055I used to live not far from the Irish factory, I dropped in a few tines to replace faulty pads and bladders.
Aug 8, 2016 at 5:07 pm #3419059Hey at least it isn’t China.
Aug 8, 2016 at 5:37 pm #3419067Hey at least it isn’t China.
Agreed!
Aug 8, 2016 at 6:07 pm #3419076The AVERAGE corporate tax rate paid in the USA (after all loopholes and deductions) is only 12.6% as of CNN’s report today.
If The Donald still wants to lower our stated corporate tax rate from 36% he ALSO need to close all the loopholes.
Good for theIrish.They need the jobs as badly as we do. Just as long as it ain’t China!
Aug 8, 2016 at 7:22 pm #3419105I’ve seen Irish-produced Therm-A-Rest pads on and off for a while.
Aug 9, 2016 at 5:29 pm #3419270Did you confirm this with Therm-a-Rest, or just make the deduction based on the COO of your pad? Seems like an odd statement to make without verifying from the company, especially considering Neo pads have been produced in both the U.S. (Seattle) and Midleton (Ireland) factory for years.  You may be right, but my bet is that they are using excess production capacity in their Midleton factory to help service the U.S. market demand.
Aug 9, 2016 at 5:41 pm #3419275What retailer did you buy from? I recently bought one from REI and it was “Made in USA.” I bought another a week later from Amazon ($20 cheaper) and guess what, “Made in Ireland.”
Aug 9, 2016 at 8:30 pm #3419315What retailer did you buy from? I recently bought one from REI and it was “Made in USA.” I bought another a week later from Amazon ($20 cheaper) and guess what, “Made in Ireland.”
Bought it at an REI in NC
Aug 10, 2016 at 2:05 pm #3419422I toured the Seatle factory a few years ago and asked the same question. Their US demand exceeds supply so they ship some pads over from the other factory. Then (2013), they only had perhaps three NeoAir machines and they were running 24 hours a day. I assume they have more now, but each machine was built by CD from the ground up, which is neither easy nor cheap.
Aug 12, 2016 at 9:51 pm #3419948Ireland, China, Mexico, whatever — they are all people.
Aug 13, 2016 at 12:55 pm #3420016What do you  mean by “they”, Ben??
lol  what’s up man??
Aug 14, 2016 at 5:17 pm #3420213I live in the UK, almost all of the pads and other gear I’ve bought from thermarest were made in Ireland, until a pad I bought last year said made in the USA. I was very taken aback. Ooh not from the EU, weird.
Aug 25, 2016 at 6:35 pm #3422584Aug 25, 2016 at 10:36 pm #3422636Good for theIrish.They need the jobs as badly as we do. Just as long as it ain’t China!
Because the Chinese can’t use the jobs. You could argue they need them more.
I know, I know, horrible quality, global ruthless capitalism, even more horrible labour conditions and wages.
Still, like the Irish and the Americans and all the other people on earth, they are humans too – and we all need jobs.Made in Japan used to be what people now see as Made in China. Give it, or rather, give them a chance.
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I’m not talking about big corporation vs cottage industry by the way. I like that with going cottage industry a lot of your money goes to the actual workers and there is often less outrageous discrepancies between the people higher and lower on the scale.
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