- Jul 6, 2018 at 5:24 pm #3545569Thomas ConlyBPL Member
@conlyLocale: Lots of canoeing and snow
Saw this new product last night and I’m super pumped.
There’s more information available on other sites if you Google. The 3/4 length is 170 grams! I may need to purchase one when they come out. I would give up some R value to have a less noisy Neoair. I wonder if it is the same material as the Xlite or if it is a lower denier.Jul 6, 2018 at 5:48 pm #3545573
Very cool. There is a video of it here:
I’m not sure if it is quieter though. Notice when the sales person smacks it at 0:26. There’s still a pretty good noise.
But the weight is awesome. This could be a great 2 season pad.
That packed size is unreal.Jul 6, 2018 at 6:06 pm #3545581idesterBPL Member
@doug-iLocale: The Cascades
I like how, when they show the packed size next to a can of beer, the guy pauses a bit and says ‘can of coke’ instead. Made me smile.
I still don’t understand why Thermarest continues to refuse to make a regular-wide pad. I guess there’s just not enough of a market for them. Bummer for me.Jul 6, 2018 at 6:12 pm #3545583Paul S.BPL Member
The weight difference between Large and MW is so minimal. Looking at other manufacturers like Big Agnes and Exped the difference is often less than an ounce.Jul 6, 2018 at 6:25 pm #3545587idesterBPL Member
@doug-iLocale: The Cascades
That’s very true. But I’m a petulant American (is there any other kind…), i want what I want.Jul 6, 2018 at 6:25 pm #3545588Ryan SmithBPL Member
@violentgreenLocale: East TN
Thermarest is so adept at taking my money. Once my Xlite large goes kaput, I suppose they’ll get $200 more. That packed size is phenomenal.
RyanJul 6, 2018 at 7:13 pm #3545594
$200 for this and then another $200 since I’ll need a smaller pack.Jul 6, 2018 at 7:31 pm #3545601James MarcoBPL Member
@jamesdmarcoLocale: Finger Lakes
Already have a small pack, the size is VERY attractive…Jul 6, 2018 at 9:30 pm #3545643Monte MastersonBPL Member
@septimiusLocale: Changes Often
You can bet it’s made with a 20 denier. Too thin for me. The 30d on the X-lite is thin enough.Jul 6, 2018 at 9:43 pm #3545646Jerry AdamsBPL Member
@retiredjerryLocale: Oregon and Washington
47 x 20 = 6 ounces
72 x 20 = 9 ounces
77 x 25 = 12 ouncesJul 27, 2018 at 5:38 am #3548563
Hendrik Morkel is recollecting that the material is 10D. Uhhhhhhhhh I hope not.10D, no matter how it’s treated is not a reasonable pad material, especially for my fat ass.
See the comments section.Jul 27, 2018 at 5:47 am #3548564
Scary but awesome. Exped has been using 15D for a while – of course I’ve put many holes in it.Jul 27, 2018 at 6:05 am #3548566
You want to make something else awesome? A sleep pad. Make it 30D top and bottom, Rvalue of 2.4, 45 to 50in long. Give it dual tapers, 25in wide narrowing to 19in wide. Have it taper in thickness from 2.75in to 1in.
The 2 Rvalue can be attained like Thermarest is doing with this uberlite.
Like a GG airbeam wide, but warmer.
This would be the forever greatest pad. ;)Jul 27, 2018 at 6:31 am #3548568
Yeah that would be awesome. If it works out to keep making gear, I’d like to do a pad eventually because I think what’s out there isn’t very clever.Jul 27, 2018 at 7:52 pm #3548631
Can you confirm how long ago Exped used 15d on the sleep mats? I just looked and I think they’ve gone back up to 20d on their lightweight line.Jul 28, 2018 at 1:09 am #3548663MinerBPL Member
So when is this going to be available? In time for the Labor Day sales and the 20% off any item coupons? I could swap out my existing short neoair for a full length one for almost the same weight. Might be nice to have for those shelter floors when I head out to the AT for a 3 week section in October.Jul 28, 2018 at 3:03 am #3548671
Can you confirm how long ago Exped used 15d on the sleep mats?
My mistake. I thought they were using 15D for lightweight mats such as the SynMat UL based on my recollection, but it’s probably been 20D all along. It’s definitely been lower than the 30D that Thermarest uses for their NeoAir for at least 5 years.Jul 29, 2018 at 12:48 am #3548785Ralph BurgessBPL Member
Until Thermarest come up with something like Exped’s Schnozzel bag, if you’re inflating by mouth you can add about 2oz per year in moisture on the inside of the pad.Jul 29, 2018 at 1:46 am #3548792Link .BPL Member
@annapurnaJul 29, 2018 at 4:31 am #3548813
The NeoAir XTherm’s come with an inflation bag that works well.Jul 30, 2018 at 6:13 am #3548967
Will Rietveld is reporting a 30D bottom, 15D top for the Uberlight. So no 10D. Probably wise.Aug 3, 2018 at 2:29 pm #3549657Adam KilpatrickBPL Member
@oystersLocale: South Australia
Makes senseAug 3, 2018 at 4:48 pm #3549675Ryan SmithBPL Member
@violentgreenLocale: East TN
I wonder what the puncture resistance specs are between a 10d and 30d nylon of similar weaves.
RyanAug 4, 2018 at 12:09 am #3549728Adam WhiteBPL Member
@awhite4777Locale: On the switchbacks
Until Thermarest come up with something like Exped’s Schnozzel bag, if you’re inflating by mouth you can add about 2oz per year in moisture on the inside of the pad.
Your comment made me curious–I just weighed my NeoAir XLite Short that I’ve been inflating by mouth for the last six years. It weighed in at 7.920 oz. Specified weight is 8.0 oz, but a cursory Googling suggests that the dry weight should be something like 7.65 oz.
So, perhaps something like 0.05 oz/yr?Aug 4, 2018 at 12:19 am #3549732D MBPL Member
@farwalkerLocale: What, ME worry?
You know….if you hang your inflatable with the nozzle open in a dry place the moisture will evaporate…..
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