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Jerry Adams BPL Member
PostedNov 8, 2025 at 11:26 am

I previously made a MYOG USB powerbank https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/myog-usb-power-bank/

That was an interesting exercise but probably not useful generally

I did make a powerbank with an 18650 battery.  2.5 ounces.  12.3 Wh.  4.9 Wh/oz.  I think that’s the lightest possible weight to make a powerbank with 18650 batteries.  Mainly, it’s that it doesn’t have a heavy case.

But it seemed like a NB1000 powerbank would actually be a better solution.  I couldn’t help myself so I bought one.

I charged it, then discharged with a 1A load and measured the output as 33.5 Wh with USB power meter.  It weighed 5.44 ounces.  So that would be 6.2 Wh/oz.

The specs for NB10000 are 38.5 Wh and 5.29 ounces.  So it weighs 3% more than spec.  I guess I can’t complain but it annoys me that manufacturers usually exaggerate their specs.

I don’t think they even measure the actual Wh output.  They just multiply the mAh rating of the battery (10000 mAh) by the nominal voltage (3.85 V).  My measurement is 87% of that.  It’s possible that’s the inefficiency of the electronics.  I can’t access the NB10000 battery so there’s no way I can determine it’s output efficiency, but with my MYOG powerbank, I could, and it was 93% efficient.  That is, the Wh coming out of the powerbank was 93% the Wh coming out of the battery.

Anyway, the NB10000 was 6.2 Wh/oz.  My MYOG was 4.9 Wh/oz.  If I had two 18650 batteries I would double the capacity and get 5.9 Wh/oz.  Three – 6.3 Wh/oz.  So, I could save a little weight with my MYOG version, and especially, I could take just as many batteries as I needed for a particular trip.  But that’s too complicated, easier to just use the NB10000.

It took 3.75 hours to charge the NB10000.  This would be good for a long trip where you want to recharge it mid trip.  I think thru-hikers like this.

My (obsolete) Anker 13000 is 4.7 Wh/oz.  And takes maybe 12 hours to charge.  9 ounces.  42 Wh.  Actually, that works fine for me and I am being wasteful buying another powerbank : )

The NB10000 has a low power mode.  When my Anker 13000 charges my ear buds, it’s too low current so it shuts off.  I have to restart it maybe 100 times before the earbud is charged.  With the NB10000, you push the power button for about 3 seconds and this white LED comes on, and then it won’t shut off a low power device like the ear buds.

The NB10000 has two USB outlets.  One is a USB A (the rectangular outlet, old technology) that is an output to charge a device with.  The other is a USB C (newer technology rounded outlet).  This is both an input and an output.  You can plug in the USB cable from a charger and it charges, or you can plug in a USB cable to a device, like a phone, to charge it.  I noticed that the output voltage was 9 volts, so it will do fast charging of a phone, but that doesn’t seem very important to me, you don’t need to fast charge because when I’m done using the phone for the day, I charge it and it doesn’t matter how long it takes.  Fast charging of the NB10000 could be useful if I had to wait for it to charge at a 110 V outlet.

Most powerbanks use 18650 batteries internally (I think).  You can see that the outer dimensions are a little bigger than an 18650 battery.  And they use Li-ion chemistry.

The NB10000 is a little different – Li-poly chemistry.  It comes in a foil package, as opposed to the metal package of a 18650.  Li-poly has a little higher voltage than Li-ion.  I think that maybe Li-poly doesn’t have as long a lifetime.  I guess I’ll make sure and only use my NB10000 when I’m backpacking.  I’ll use my Anker(s) when I’m at my car.

I noticed another spec – rated energy – 6400 mAh at 5V.  That would be 32 Wh.  That’s a little less than my measured 33.5 Wh.  Ahhh…. that is what I would expect for a spec – a little less than the typical or actual.  Maybe I have to take back my criticism of them being under spec for capacity.  I just need to ignore “capacity”, because it doesn’t mean anything.  Look at the “rated energy” instead.

If I look at the 4 powerbanks I have:

Anker – 13000 mAh – 42 Wh actual

Anker – 10000 mAh – 26 Wh actual (this is pretty old so possibly degraded from new)

Anker – 20000 mAh – 60 Wh actual

NB10000 – 10000 mAh – 33.5 Wh actual

Then the mAh rating of the powerbank is actually pretty good for comparing two powerbanks.  For example if a 10,000 mAh lasts half as many days as you need, then you can get a 20,000 mAh one.

 

Bill Budney BPL Member
PostedNov 8, 2025 at 1:58 pm

That’s a great review with lots of detail, Jerry.

Regarding the specs, though: The NB10000 Gen 2 is rated at 6400 mAh. That’s 64% of 10,000, so your test measurement of 87% actually outperforms the spec.

Your annoyance is misplaced. ;)

Jerry Adams BPL Member
PostedNov 8, 2025 at 3:17 pm

the problem with writing too many numbers is that it’s easy to screw some of them up : )

like I said, on the piece of paper that came with it, it said “rated energy 6,400 mAh 5V”.  That would be 32 Wh.  I measured 33.5 Wh.  So, I approve of that spec – actual is a little better than spec.

but, it also says “capacity 10,000 mAh 3.85V (38.5 Wh)”.  That’s what I’m objecting to.  But if I just ignore that, then all is good.

maybe they could explain somewhere what those specs mean.

and, really all of this isn’t that important.  What does Wh mean to anyone?  I don’t think people know how many Wh they need per day.  The mAh rating of the battery allows you to compare different powerbanks so maybe that’s all you need.  And the weight.

 

 

David D BPL Member
PostedNov 8, 2025 at 7:50 pm

New cross sections taken of the haribo show poor cell consistency, it’ll wear out faster.  It’s cheap for a reason

Jerry Adams BPL Member
PostedNov 8, 2025 at 8:10 pm

That’s weird, he measured 14.9 Wh for the nb10000, I measured 33.5 Wh.

He said he charged an I phone.  Maybe it was 14.9 Wh to charge a phone, not the capacity of the nb10000.  And the haribo had about the same which would make sense, if he charged the same phone twice

When I charged my nb10000 it took 8.8 V and 1.9 A.  Took 3.75 hours.  Those are different than his.

When I first tried, it did a very low current.  Then I tried a different USB power meter and it worked better.  The USB power meter affected how much current it drew.

With my experiments with myog, it was very weird how the device and charger decided how much voltage and current to use.

He suggested to plug the USB cord plug into the USB outlet on the haribo and use that for a carry loop.  That is insane!!!  USB connectors are not designed to be mechanically stressed like that.  You’re going to break it.

This seems more like an influencer than a serious analysis.

 

Jerry Adams BPL Member
PostedNov 8, 2025 at 8:22 pm

I just looked it up.  The haribo is also li-polymer, like the nb10000, so they probably have about the same capacity and their weight is about the same.

I don’t think the carbon fiber case of the nb10000 saves much weight, more of a coolness factor.

Haribo costs 48 dollars on eBay, currently unavailable on Amazon.  The nb10000 costs 59 dollars.

I’m just guessing they’re about equally good.

It wouldn’t bother me to have a power bank branded by a candy company:)

Terran BPL Member
PostedNov 9, 2025 at 7:02 am

$48? $199 for their 20,000 mah. Leave it to the opportunists. There’s a lot clones that may fit the same specs, still for cheap.

Clone

Jerry Adams BPL Member
PostedNov 9, 2025 at 8:02 am

we both hit the dollar sign italics bug.  I just changed to “dollars” written out.  Or, you can put a back slash in front of the dollar sign.

David D BPL Member
PostedNov 11, 2025 at 4:43 pm

This is the power bank we’re betting our through hike on?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/1oulnob/haribo_battery_safety_issue/

Waiting for the winds of change
To sweep the clouds away
Waiting for the rainbow’s end
To cast its gold your way
Countless ways
You pass the days
Waiting for someone to call
And turn your world around
Looking for an answer to
The questions you have found
Looking for
An open door
Oh, you don’t get something for nothing
You don’t get freedom for free
You won’t get wise
With the sleep still in your eyes
No matter what your dreams might be

 

Terran BPL Member
PostedNov 11, 2025 at 6:02 pm

Use it to spark your stove. Isn’t that a pro? 😮

Alan W BPL Member
PostedNov 12, 2025 at 3:38 am

Hairbo unit not having any IPx water resistance rating was a fatal “con” for my backcountry use before reading one more word.

stenslat . BPL Member
PostedNov 14, 2025 at 1:45 pm

We (LabJack) measured the Nitecore NB10000 G3 at 33.7 Wh or 87.5% of the claimed 38.5 Wh, and we noted a weight of 153 grams versus the claimed 150 grams.

 

Jerry Adams BPL Member
PostedNov 14, 2025 at 2:05 pm

I measured 33.5 Wh and 154 grams – very close to yours

The weight is close enough to spec for me to not to complain about, but it would be more ethical to have the actual weight a little less than spec

Being 87.5% of spec on Wh is annoying to me.  They should be closer than that.  Fortunately, almost no one has a good feeling for what that number means so I guess it doesn’t matter :)

Regardless, I think this powerbank is the best powerbank if you consider the amount of energy per weight.

Jerry Adams BPL Member
PostedNov 15, 2025 at 8:55 am

I like the concept of destroying the device to figure out how it works

Hmmm… Maybe I could use that to make a MYOG power bank… No, that’s a lithium battery charger, not a lithium battery driven power supply.

Jerry Adams BPL Member
PostedNov 15, 2025 at 10:06 am

I was looking at their specs more closely.

They say capacity of the NB10000 is 38.5 Wh

They also say rated energy is 6400 mAh at 5 V.  That would be 32 Wh.

If we just ignore “capacity” and assume “rated energy” is the spec, then they meet spec.  That is how specs should be – the actual exceeds spec by a little.

And again, I don’t think most people have an intuitive feel for what this number means so it doesn’t matter, but it would be good if all power bank manufacturers used the same spec so you could compare power banks.  But they all specify the mAh of the batteries which is probably a good way to compare power banks.

Tom D. BPL Member
PostedNov 15, 2025 at 11:01 am

This Inui pack supposedly comes in at 5.6 oz according to a review I saw online. I bought a 20 mah one of this brand a few years ago and the advertised weight was accurate:

https://a.co/d/iGj3EN3

Jerry Adams BPL Member
PostedNov 15, 2025 at 11:52 am

Inui uses lithium polymer like the nb10000, rather than lithium ion like most power banks.  Which makes its weight a little less.

Tom D. BPL Member
PostedNov 21, 2025 at 11:19 am

Just an update, I ordered the Inui that I mentioned above (it’s on sale right now for $26) and it just came today. To their credit, it shows right at the advertised 5.6 oz on my scale, and 5.8 oz with the included cable.

 

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