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Luke Coop BPL Member
PostedJan 19, 2024 at 8:15 am

I’m baffled (see what I did there?). I bought this quilt through the gear swap in 2012. If memory serves it was advertised as a Revelation X 20 Degree Regular Wide with 30% overfill. I’m relying on my memory for this because I can’t find the original ad, the message thread doesn’t include specifics and the seller hasn’t been active for several years. Weight is 18.352 ounces, which seems a little light for the regular wide with overfill, but I’m not what one might call quilt savvy (clearly).

Here’s why I’m confuzzed. Other than having the 1/4 zip at the foot box the quilt doesn’t look like a Revelation to my admittedly untrained eyes, mainly because the baffle pattern appears to differ from what’s shown on EE’s site. There’s also no EE branding on it anywhere (maybe that’s normal). For a hot minute I thought maybe it came from the X mass drop a few years back. I dismissed that idea though, because I paid more second hand than the mass drop price, it seems nicer than the reviews lead me to believe I should expect the mass drop version to be – and from what I can tell it appears the mass drop occurred several years after 2012, when I bought this quilt.

Someone enlighten me (I just can’t stop!). Note the baffle pattern, and also note the lines (additional stitching?) I think are probably attributable to the different material they used for the X’s shell. Could the different pattern be chalked up to its age? I looked around unsuccessfully for an answer to that question.

Hopefully it doesn’t seem like I’m complaining. I like the quilt, but in the years I’ve had it I’ve only ever used it as a topper over my cold natured wife when we’re together in our ZPacks Twin.  I did deploy the quilt as intended on my single pad (Tensor Insulated), but only in the house. Once I educated myself on the foot box and snaps and proper use I quickly decided I’d enjoy using it as intended, but I’d love to know what I have before I test it outdoors.

In case anyone is wondering, I haven’t reached out to the seller or EE yet but probably will today.  Here are some pics to help you help me.

Thanks a bunch!

EDIT – I found a review from ~2014 with photos of a Revelation and the baffle pattern matches mine. Maybe I have my answer. This quilt is in amazing condition if it’s really that old.

Brad Rogers BPL Member
PostedJan 19, 2024 at 9:22 am

I believe it’s an early Revolution.   EE started as a guy (Marshall???? maybe ???) converting people’s sleeping bags to quilts and then got into doing custom quilts – I think some of the early foot boxes were rudimentary and they refined the design quite a bit in the first few years.   Down fill was probably quite a bit less than current quilts as 12oz of down used to be pretty standard for a 20 deg quilt – and we’ve seen that go up quite a bit.

At the time there were really very few commercial options for quilts- Nunatak being the original, but they were quite expensive and EE found a niche making more affordable quilts.  Then Katabatic, Zpacks, Hammock Gear and bunch of other players got in the game.  Heck even REI, Thermarest, and WM make quilts now.

Lots of the innovation of Ultralight backpacking seems to have faded, but we do have tons of easily available and accessible choices nowadays.  Lots of packs, quilts, and shelters with good designs, materials, and craftsmanship to choose from.   Some of my early UL gear looks like it was made by someone seeing on thier grandmothers sewing machine in their garage as a side job – because they were.

PostedJan 19, 2024 at 11:22 am

I am STILL rocking an EE quilt from around the same time that looks just like that.  Mine is eggshell blue outside, black inside.  It was rated to 20 degrees.  Right around 2020/2021 I sent it in to have some additional down added, and it’s still going strong.

This one looks like it’s in great shape.  I think I also retro-fitted two of the newer flat pad straps with clips that they continue to use today.

 

 

 

Luke Coop BPL Member
PostedJan 19, 2024 at 12:50 pm

Guys, thanks for the input! Jeff, have you used yours in cold weather very much? I realize cold weather is a subjective construct, so let’s say near the quilt’s stated limit. It seems like it’d perform pretty well, but I haven’t had occasion to test it yet.

HkNewman BPL Member
PostedJan 19, 2024 at 5:14 pm

haven’t had occasion to test it yet.

EE now has overfill in their standard quilts, but my Enigma bought several years ago was true to its stated temperature.

After purchase or very few years after cleaning I’ll test major gear out, … and with the EE quilt, I waited until a car camp site in Arizona read its lowest temperature = my quilts rating.  It was dry and so was I after just driving.  Set my alarm for 5AM and sure enough my quilt was working fine at the coldest part of the morning.

Of course in use a hiker may be sweating coming into a campsite late, etc.. with a cold wind, hungry, etc.. , but we need to test at relatively standard conditions.

David Sugeno BPL Member
PostedJan 19, 2024 at 7:24 pm

Here’s my Revelation, purchased in 2013.  Not only does the baffling appear the same, but also the color (there were fewer options back then).  Mine does have a small Enlightened Equipment tag near the head end of the quilt.

Terran BPL Member
PostedJan 20, 2024 at 4:34 am

Measure the loft and that will give you an idea of the rating.

PostedJan 20, 2024 at 6:39 am

Luke,

Oh geeze.  It was 2016 or 2017 and we did a trip up near Banff hiking into Mt Assiniboine around the 1st or 2nd week of September.  It had snowed two days before but temps were warming back up for the rest of the week as we hit the trailhead at the Sunshine Village Ski Resort and headed south toward Citadel Pass.  That night we had a permit down in the Simpson River valley at the designated camping site. You know how they tell you that cold air sinks at night?  Boy did I learn that firsthand!  It probably dropped into the low 20’s maybe even the high teens.  I was cold alone in my TarpTent Stratospire 2.  (My wife was supposed to be with me but the weather made her nervous and she bailed).   My 2 friends who were with me had left their Sawyer water filter in the bear locker and it had frozen overnight.  Lots of frost on the tents.  The rest of the trip was warmer (no more camping in valleys) and no we had a great time.

That was before I had sent my karo baffle quilt back to EE to have down added.  I’m not even sure they offer that service any longer.

Also, I think I’m a cold sleeper.

 

Jerry Adams BPL Member
PostedJan 20, 2024 at 7:34 am

what happened to your sawyer filter after it froze?  was the case cracked?  did you try using it afterwards and was the flow similar to before or did the flow rate increase because something was cracked inside?  did you shake the water out of it after use, before it froze?

I tried to keep my Sawyer squeeze from freezing, but then it accidentally froze and seemed to still work the same.  After I use it, I shake as much water out of it as possible.  With less water inside maybe it survives freezing.  There’s still water inside the hollow tubes, but they’re designed to expand a little so maybe they survive freezing.

PostedJan 21, 2024 at 11:26 am

Jerry – that morning for breakfast it wouldn’t work, which is how they figured out it was frozen.  After that, we figured the integrity of the filter was compromised and just used mine.  There were no signs of cracks on the external housing.

M B BPL Member
PostedJan 29, 2024 at 6:19 pm

Definitely a EE  Tim made and sold here. Karo cut baffles.

But it’s probably  not a 20° at 18.5 Oz and a wide and 30% overfill….

You couldn’t even get that today out of 10D fabric…🤔

They were made with 30d seconds fabric to be price effective

I think you got a 30-40 F quilt there.  Maybe a 40 f with 30% overfill that somebody thinks is good for 20.

 

I have a 40F regular… One of the first batches Tim sold here..and its about 15.9 oz with all the webbing straps and stuff removed.

 

 

Luke Coop BPL Member
PostedJan 29, 2024 at 8:28 pm

M B, your response prompted me to weight it again, only this time instead of trying to roll/wad it enough to get the whole thing on the scale I stuffed it in a sack, which weighs one ounce. Clearly I didn’t get the entire weight of the quilt on there LOL.

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