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Minimalist 4-Season Gearlist (Durability Focus)

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Zack L BPL Member
PostedNov 9, 2023 at 1:44 pm

I always wish I had less gear, but I also hesitate to get rid of gear because it all has optimal applications. I always like the thought of getting rid of everything but the minimum gear. I go out in all four seasons, deal with lots of bugs, rain, snow. And I hate the idea of gear that wears out and needs replacement quickly. I thought it would be an interesting thought experiment to dial in the most minimalist kit.

 

Shelter – if I had to pick one shelter it would be a ‘mid that would work for 2-people. My favorite shelter is a SilNy MLD Duomid because of the extra durability. I wish it was slightly larger but I think the DuomidXL is a bit too large. I’d also never be without a 10’x10’ flat tarp. The only situation the ‘mid doesn’t work well in ironically is car camping/campgrounds where the ground is too hard to drive stakes.

 

Sleep system – I think optimal would be a true 15 degree down mummy bag and a 40-50 degree synthetic quilt. I use the WM MF Badger and an oversized MLD Apex quilt. I have a 30 degree down quilt that I still use a ton but theoretically the synthetic quilt and down bag would probably cover my needs.

If I could only have one pad it would be an Xtherm. I love the warmth and long term durability. I use my Tensor way more often because of comfort, but I don’t think the XTherm can be beat on durability.

 

Cook kit – If I could only have one pot it would be a Snowpeak 1400. I prefer my Evernew 900 in most cases but the SP1400 is more durable and versatile.

Stove. I would be tempted to pick a whisperlite universal for it’s versatility even though that is the stove I use less than anything else.

Water – The most logical choice would be Aquamira but I never could get used to chemical options. I’d probably pick a Steripen as my ultimate choice but a Katadyn BeFree would be a close second place. I have filters I prefer for group trips, or where gathering water is more challenging, but 95% of the time a Steripen or BeFree would be fine.

Overall this is just a rambling thought experiment of if I could pair down my gear closet and enjoy the fewer components that I use more. What are your ideal minimalist gear choices? What criteria do you look at? What are the shortcomings? Do you prefer a full room of specialized gear or do you prefer fewer but more versatile equipment?

PostedNov 9, 2023 at 1:54 pm

I think about this ALL the time. When I get riled up about having too much gear, and then get rid of a bunch, I start reaccumulating it for special use cases…it’s a vicious cycle.

I do more in the cold seasons than the summer, so my tent would lean towards a real winter tent with a double wall. If I stayed at or below treeline in the winter, and still wanted a tent for summer and bags, I’d probably lean towards a Tarptent Dipole 1 DW, but I’m testing a bunch of double-wall tents this winter, so we’ll see how that all shakes out. You may see conversations on another thread about winter tents for extreme conditions, but that’s one of these niche use cases where the tents aren’t really practical for use in the other 3 seasons.

There are so many differences (for me) between winter and summer seasons that I don’t know if I could dial in one cook system for all seasons. It has to be able to melt snow fast. Right now for me that’s an MSR Reactor, and it’s way too much stove for summer solo use.

I’m with you on water treatment, I’d be OK with Aqua Mira or a Steripen all the time.

I use a NEMO Tensor Extreme, durability so far so good. I’d be fine with carrying that all four seasons. Durability and comfort are definitely the highest priorities for me in a sleeping pad.

But I have some niche use cases that I’m pretty passionate about – short fastpacking (1-2 night trips) and winter in the high alpine above the treeline, so I’m not quite willing to give up my kits that are tailored for those use cases quite yet!

Mark Verber BPL Member
PostedNov 9, 2023 at 3:52 pm

Interesting thought experiment. I tried to live it out for awhile, selling off the “extra gear”, but added things back in because what I use solo and when doing a trip with my wife varies things a fair bit.  I also realized that I am sticking to 3 season these days which changed the equation a bit.  IF was was doing 4 season that would serve 1 or 2 people:

Shelter: pyramid with inner netting.  mld duomid xl would be the most likely, but lots of good options.  3season: I just picked up a GG Whisper for 2.5 season solo, and  Durston xmid pro2 for more severe weather solo and trips with the wife.

Sleep:  It facing real cold, 40F quilt + 10F bag which I could mix and match. Xtherm pad + thin foam for hardcore winter is what I have used for 4season. Seems like the NEMO and Sea2Summit have pads which are a bit heavier but more durable / comfortable, but I have limited personal experience. 3season: 30F quilt which I can successful push to 15f  and still be  comfortable + UberLite (failed me) ?

Cooking: Evernew .9l or 1.3l depending of frequency of melting snow. DIY inverted canister. 3season: My current is MLD 850ml + Caldera Cone for solo trips, and an ancient Snowpeak GigiPower + Evernew 1.3 pot for group trips.

Water: Aqua Mira.  3seasons:  periodically switch because my weighting of tradeoffs changes. This year trying HydraPak 28mm filter and giving Steripen another chance.

 

 

Zack L BPL Member
PostedNov 9, 2023 at 6:09 pm

Great feedback from you both! That’s the same reason I always chicken out from getting rid of so much gear. It seems like the minimalist/max versatility kit makes more sense if you’re starting from scratch rather than cutting specialized gear you already own. I still think I’ll make a concerted effort to reduce some redundancy in certain areas. Although it’s also fun to be able to loan gear to friends that join me on trips. It seems hard to avoid eventually having a small gear shop in your house eventually.

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