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  • #3722050
    Steve H
    BPL Member

    @hop

    I like having dry/clean sleep layers including a hoody in cool/cold weather when sleeping in my hood less bag, but it does cost some weight.  Any advice on adding & removing an active hike layer (Peloton 97 or Cap Thermal weight) I wear over Cap LW?  I’m interested in how others do this.  How often do you have to stop, take the pack off, remove a layer?  Or do you reduce your watts & open the zipper wide – is that often enough?  If I stop taking my Montbell LW Merino crew sleep shirt, I don’t want a sweaty hoody to sleep in.  I’ll keep the Peloton bottoms for sleep.  Just seeing what others do if they don’t carry dedicated sleep hoody.  Thanks.

    #3722053
    Bonzo
    BPL Member

    @bon-zo

    Locale: Virgo Supercluster

    I don’t often stop to shed a layer, anymore: I start cold and usually find out that I’m excessively warm within a short span of time.

    #3722056
    matthew k
    Moderator

    @matthewkphx

    Same. If I wear layers once I start walking I’m overheating and have to stop within minutes.

    I usually don’t bring dedicated sleep clothes.

    #3722122
    Steve H
    BPL Member

    @hop

    Bonzo & Matthew, thanks!  So Matthew, assuming you sweat plenty in your hiking shirt, & don’t bring dedicated sleep clothes, what’s your solution?  Just let it dry on you while at the campsite then sleep in it, and next day/night repeat?  Thanks again.

    #3722124
    Bonzo
    BPL Member

    @bon-zo

    Locale: Virgo Supercluster

    Not to point out the obvious, here, but: sleeping without clothing can be an option.

    #3722198
    Mike M
    BPL Member

    @mtwarden

    Locale: Montana

    I use the Kuiu 97 hoody and pants as both sleep layers and mid-layers.  Other than mid summer, they are a permanent addition in my pack.

    I purchased the hoody first wanting something very light (5-ish oz) in fleece (and with a hood!).  Within a couple of trips I was sold on it.  I decided to give the pants a go, but was thinking the zip off feature was a little gimmicky and just added weight.  I can tell you it’s not at all gimmicky and on those cold mornings leaving them on until it warms with the ability to shed them in a few seconds is pretty darn nice.

    The fabric provides more warmth than the weight would belie, it’s comfortable against the skin, breathes well, dries quickly and it’s uber light- good stuff :)

    #3722203
    Steve H
    BPL Member

    @hop

    Thanks Mike.  Some of your posts encouraged me to look at them.  I’m a fan as well.  Agree about the zippers.  When you use them as both mid layers & sleep clothes are you careful to manage the sweat or is it mostly a non-issue?  I appreciate the Kuiu recommendation. Love the weight too.  Steve

    #3722205
    Karen
    BPL Member

    @granolagirlak

    I have to have a dry layer to sleep in. yes, it’s a bit more weight but worth the good night of sleep. I usually have a base layer where I live (it’s cold here at night, usually). For warmer regions, shorts and a T. Sleeping naked is seriously inconvenient in mosquito country.

    #3722210
    Mike M
    BPL Member

    @mtwarden

    Locale: Montana

    my base layers are really thin (OR Echo) and they are usually bone dry by the time I hit the sack; if not, they dry quickly after getting in the bag/quilt- body heat makes short work of them wether it’s sweat or wet from rain/snow

     

    #3722211
    matthew k
    Moderator

    @matthewkphx

    So Matthew, assuming you sweat plenty in your hiking shirt, & don’t bring dedicated sleep clothes, what’s your solution?

    I don’t have one solution that I always do. I usually sleep in normal (not long) underwear and a shirt or fleece. I have slept in my hiking clothing on many occasions because I’m tired and didn’t care.

    If you do want separate sleep clothing, I’m pretty sure you’d have a hard time finding anything lighter than Terramar Thermasilk. I do have their long underwear bottoms and mine weigh 2.9 ounces in a medium. My large Macpac Alpha Direct hoody is 5.3 ounces and I think you could get a lighter one from a number of other makers.

    #3722215
    Steve H
    BPL Member

    @hop

    Mike – I wear OR Echo too.  I’m a little confused.  So sure the sweat wicks away & the Echo dries great – but do you sleep in the Echo or the Kuiu?  If you’re sleeping in the Kuiu, how dry is it?  Thanks!

    Matthew – is your (usual sleep shirt dedicated for sleep or no?  And thanks for the recs on light sleep layers!

    Karen – thanks!  For sure, it’s easy to look forward to fresh sleep clothes.

    #3722216
    Mike M
    BPL Member

    @mtwarden

    Locale: Montana

    if it’s warm- just the base layer, if it’s cool to cold, the Kuiu goes over the top- typically it’s cool to cold, so usually it’s the combination of the two

    I’ll usually push my sleep system a wee bit and the Kuiu layers help in that regard.  During the day if needed, they become my active layer.

    #3722217
    Steve H
    BPL Member

    @hop

    Thanks Mike.

    #3722219
    Bonzo
    BPL Member

    @bon-zo

    Locale: Virgo Supercluster

    Sleeping naked is seriously inconvenient in mosquito country.

    I can see that it would be if you’re in the open, or under a tarp with no netting…but assuming that you have a net/mesh layer between you and the parasitic outside world: what’s the issue?  I’ve peeled all of the layers more than once on a hot night and not had any significant increase in mosquito issues.  To be honest, it’s rather nice to sack out on top of the bag on a hot night.

    #3722300
    Steve H
    BPL Member

    @hop

    Mike – just wish the Velcro on my pack roll top closure didn’t eat the Kuiu so hungrily.

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