Looking for really warm baselayer pants/tights

http://marmot.com/products/details/stretch-fleece-pant
Marmot stretch fleece pants

Weigh about 8 ounces in mens medium, these are seriously warm. They fit like tights, but slightly looser than running tights, like you can layer them over regular tights.

If you need anything warmer than that, how about layering?

STP has some Terramar Military 3.0 Grid Fleece tights that weigh 7.2oz (my R1 pants are 8oz) for $17

You might also try some Polartec Powerstretch Tights.  STP normally has some in the $30-40 range and Ragged Mountain sells some for $59 that are made in New Hampshire.

I think some of the R1 was made for the military so Uncle Sam still may source some from a vendor.  The reason I say that is the pair I have was direct from Patagonia on closeout for $35 and are Made in USA and are in “Alpha Green” color – IE Army Green.

+1 for the Terramar military 3.0 grid fleece

Military surplus quilted, fiberfill pant liners?

I like them because they are warm and comfortable, slip on and off easily and have articulated knees.

I can also slip them over my pants for short term use without having to take my pants off.

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Eastern Mountain Sports also has some powerstretch vector pants/tights. This years heavyweight baselayer pant is a slightly thinner powerstretch but also very warm and fits me like tights.Very comfy actually.

The Terramar Grid 3.0 looks nice. Is the grid size and thickness comparable to the R1 grid?

You might also look at the Terramar Ecolator Bottom which looks like R1 to me.  The problem is most sites don’t give you the weight of the fabric so its hard to know exactly what you are looking at.  It may take some buy and returns and/or talking on the phone to retailers to give you some additional info.
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Cabelas ECWCS (various weights), Under Armour 3.0, 4.0, or Extreme  (if mostly stationary).

PolarMax has a heavy fleece baselayer, runs small,  fits like tights but not too much stretch.

If I need more warmth than my Cap 4’s than I wear a Smartwool NTS 150 or 250 under them or my PolarMax fleece. I should buy a larger pair of the PolarMax so I can layer under them instead of over for better wicking

Ok, I’ve got Norrona Warm2 stretch tights

Aclima Hotwool and Kora Yak wool base layers.

Hope it helps.

Lawrie

Oh yeah and the ME Eclipse pants are Grid fleece just like the R1.

Lawrie.