Longer guylines on Lanshan 2 Pro

I haven’t been able to listen to the podcast yet so this may be redundant. A couple of thoughts:

You can’t pitch a mid with substantially longer guylines and expect a good pitch. The line typically needs to be an extension of the seam. You won’t get a good pitch tying off to a root 3’ away, for example because you will be pulling out too much and not down enough.

That said, you could add some “rock loops” to your existing guylines in order to have some extra length for tying off to rocks, roots, etc. I’ve done this in the past with 18–24” of extra line with a half hitch on a bight or bowline on both ends. I think it’s simpler to just have add extra length to your lines.

I routinely ignore guying out the bathtub on various shelters. I’ve never noticed a problem with it but YMMV.

You can’t pitch a mid with substantially longer guylines and expect a good pitch. The line typically needs to be an extension of the seam. You won’t get a good pitch tying off to a root 3’ away, for example because you will be pulling out too much and not down enough.

You are referring to the corners, aren’t you?

What about apexes? Would much longer guylines be a problem as well?

Yes, I was referring to corners.

The geometry problem doesn’t occur with an apex, as far as I know.

you could add some “rock loops” to your existing guylines in order to have some extra length for tying off to rocks, roots, etc. I’ve done this in the past with 18–24” of extra line with a half hitch on a bight or bowline on both ends.

I thought I would need much more line than 18-24”. Would it be enough for something like this?

Perhaps I should have specified that I’ve used this approach with a tent/tarp equipped with Linelocs. I mostly used this approach back when I had a Duplex and I’d use the main guyline loops when using a stake and then use the rock loop going to a smaller rock (a chock) with one or more larger rocks on top. Zoom in close and you can see it in this shot. 

The “rock loop” is knotted to the stock guyline, or directly to the tent webbing, or the linelock hole?

I know this should be easy, but I’ve read somewhere that additional thin lines can cause some damage to webbings or cords when there is wind, and I’d rather avoid any inconvenience.

Thanks

On the Duplex I had guyline through the lineloc terminating in a loop (half-hitch on a bight or maybe a bowline). The rock loop was tied through that loop. When I used a stake the rock loop was ignored.

Like I said earlier, I decided at some point that it was easier to just use longer lines in this application.

I agree that lines can break but I typically use fairly durable line (Lawson) and with that extra length I feel like I can improvise something if needed. I carry some extra line (~10’ of MLD’s 1.5mm orange line, similar to your Paria line) and inspect my guylines every now and then.