lightweight sleeping bag or quilt?

http://www.hammockgear.com/burrow-20/  $249

What specifically about the Revelation doesn’t work for you? Are you still open to other quilts, or specifically interested in a sleeping bag?

I got a Revelation and returned it. I need sleeping bag all around me/under me. Revelation is cut to have one side of you sleep on sleeping pad.  I didnt like dealing with the straps. Love the foot boxes.

Quilt vs bag? Here’s my experience, personal and unique. Yours will be different!

I got my first quilt in 2003. I got my first mummy bag in 1982.

Using a mummy I can stay warmer for the same weight. Or I can go lighter for the same warmth. Being fully enclosed in a mummy without the chance of drafts seem to more efficiently take advantage of a given rating. And I can toss and turn without concerns.

Using a quilt I can cover my dog too. That’s why I use a quilt.

Have you looked at the Zpacks hoodless bags or the Feathered Friends Flicker?

http://www.zpacks.com/quilts/sleepingbag.shtml

http://featheredfriends.com/flicker-20-nano-down-quilt-sleeping-bag.html

As a rule of thumb, you are going to pay significantly more for an ultralight sleeping bag than for an ultralight quilt.  If I understand your original post, money is not a huge concern (at least $325 anyway), but it’s worth mentioning that UL bags can easily reach $500-700.  Most 20* quilts are in the $250-$350 range, with arguably the best of the best (Katabatic Sawatch etc) being closer to $500.  Food for thought.

Katabatic seems to have really refined the design of quilts to where the “I need something under me” isn’t a big factor.  Their pad attachment system is really neat.

If light weight outweights (pun) cost, zPacks makes essentially the lightest sleeping bag/quilt that has insulation underneath the user.

Yeah thats not exactly true when you consider you can get decent discounts on quite a few big manufacturers sleeping bags

for example i just bought a MH spark 28 for ~325 maple syrup dollahz, the 15F would have cost me 400$ canadian including taxes

there was a recent massdrop on kelty 800 fill bags, i believe the 20F was less than 250 USD …

realistically you can find more and deeper sales on bags like MH,marmot, rab, etc .. All 800 fill +

and frankly when you consider the weight against a wide quilt with a hood … It isnt too far off

quilts may be more useful and confortable to some folks but theres no great price or weight advantage

especially when you consider it takes more skill to use em at their limits below freezing

;)

IMO all the bags you mentioned are lightweight, but not really ultralight, hence the lower prices.

And here i thought that UL was a matter of the TOTAL weight, not any single item …

didnt realize that if you had a 626g bag en-rated to 28F it isnt UL … OMG !!!

Note that BPL reviewed plenty of 800+ fill bags years ago

once you add up the weight of a EE 800 fill wide quilt with straps and a hood, the weight isnt too far off

;)

Comparing weights of bags/quilts from manufacturer to manufacturer is going to be tricky. I am pretty sure there’s no ‘must follow’ standard for calculating down fill. This company skimp a bit on down, that company overfills slightly. Both claim 0°. And they use different fabrics, strap systems, fit measurements.

For example Drew says zPacks makes the lightest bags. With all the variations thrown in, that statement is hard to relate to.

If I was making claims that my company had the lightest bags, I would have to source the absolute lightest fabric (Membrane?) and the highest fill power non-dry down from the best source. Then I would look really close at all the details. Thinnest shock cord, skimpiest baffling, hot knifing instead of serging, etc. And in the end, because my fit is roomy or my interpretation of ’20°’ is off and I overfill slightly, competitor B would beat me with an inferior product!

If you don’t want a quilt, Here’s a good sleeping bag. Reasonable price. If I wasn’t a total EE quilty fanboi it’s what I’d get.

But I’m almost as big a Montbell fanboi, so there’s that.

[edit] well crap, out of stock at the link, but others have it

Im doing EE quilt :)

As an owner of 3 EE quilts, I’m not going to quibble with that choice. :^)

Which one?