Lightweight 2P tents that can fit two wide pads

The X-Mid Pro 2 can fit two wide tapered pads but not two wide rectangular pads because it’s fine to splay out the floor in the middle but not at the corners. However, we are going to release a wider 2+ version of the X-Mid Pro in a few months which will easily fit all dual wide pads.

Because bigger is always better. Sleeping pads will only get wider. What about a single sleeping pad made to fit the tent? You’ve already sold the tent. I think it would add stability if done right.

This is a 52.5” tapered Exped on a 45” floor. It falls slightly short of the corner. The problem with 2 25” pads is that they buckle up in the middle. Being an air pad, they kind of squish to fit whatever form you put them in.

I’d think the Tarptent Dipole 2 Li is a good first look (as you’ve said).  I haven’t seen it personally, but I’m tickled pink with my Dipole 1 Li.  The 2’s floor is 50″ at its narrowest point, and the tent weighs a massive 28.7 oz including struts, stakes, apex guys, and a stuff sack.  Poles are an extra 8 oz if you don’t use trekking poles.  If its stability matches that of the 1, it should probably handle the conditions you’re expecting.

Yes, the Dipole 2 Li is designed to fit two long, wide, thick pads.

@ Terran Terran Re. “I think it would add stability if done right.”  Your comment reminded me that when Nemo first started as a company, their tents featured “AirFrames” that customers had to inflate to create structural rigidity.

It made me think of the air frame tents.

Dan mentioned not splaying out the corners. I wondered why not? Stress on the corner seam . Disfiguring the set up. Pushing against the mesh. Compromise the sides letting moisture in.
The mattress should take the shape of the form which is the floor. Stress should be equal.

The outward force is the same as staking out the floor. It should hold the floor down. You’d only need 2 guy lines at the poles. I know. That’s pushing it.
It would add insulation.

But they’re not made to fit. They’re not customized.

I think I may wait until Dan’s new X-Mid comes out. Either that or I’ll get antsy and order a regular X-Mid or something. Thanks for the input!

The Seek Outside Sunlight is 60 wide in center , 48 on ends , 8’3 end to end .

“Dan mentioned not splaying out the corners. I wondered why not?”

For any tent, the sidewalls are going to be fairly free to splay out in the middle because nothing is rigidly defining things. The sidewalls are holding the bathtub walls upright but there’s a fair bit of stretch/play/flexibility in that, so you can bend the sidewalls out pretty easily. This happens naturally as you vary the pitch height since a high pitch lifts more of the floor into the sidewalls and vice versa.

But at the end of the tent the sidewalls are held in more of a fixed position because the bathtub wall on the end is joining the sidewalls there. You can’t just pull the sidewalls out flat like you can in the middle. Plus on the X-Mid Pro tents we also have little struts at these corners to help the walls stand up and tension things, which further means that the floor width is well defined at the ends. You can still splay it out some, but it’s less flexible such that you risk stressing the corners if you try to splay it out there. That’s why wide tapered pads can be accommodated by splaying out the floor some, but wide rectangular pads are more of an issue if you’re trying to squeeze them in.

There would be stress on the corners seams, but it can be minimized with under inflation that accounts for somebody laying on the mattress. The mattress itself is permeable as long as it isn’t overinflated. I show a 52” mattress, but I doubt it measures out to that where it squeezes in. That isn’t my normal setup. I was just checking if it would fit.

If the pad fit the floor, no adjustments would have to be made. The sidewalls would remain up. Makes me think of putting a Thermarest pad inside an Alpaca for some reason.

Of course tent design makes a difference. I’m not sure how much.

@DanDurston You already know I’m getting one. Any details on the new tent or any other secret projects?