LG Khufu inner or Bivi?

1. One of a few bivies i use. Tbis one is Katabatic Gear Bristlecone bivy. 

Thanks Dirt Bag. That looks similar to my Borah Bivi, I’m looking for something less draughty from the cold winds.

I have a Locus Hapi custom long.  Like a Khufu but the door is at the foot.

Have the inner nest   Only used it with the DPTE  I’m tall and prefer the extra room.  I have been considering getting a Yama bivy to cut weight   The outer tent is 13.5 oz and the silnylon inner is 18.5 oz   Not sure if I am going to spend the money to cut the weight at the moment. Yama has a wind bivy and a standard bug bivy.  You can see in the pic the inner cuts out a few inches all around.  At 6’4” I wouldn’t want anything shorter.   I’m end to end in the long and it’s supposed to be about 118” x 70” Gives you an idea how much usable space there is with the low height and inner nest.

 Borah Gear Snowy Side eVent bivy..

Or you could go MLD eVent Soul bivy?

I have a Khufu Full Mesh. It’s very nice and quite light. Works better with single pole than with DPTE. The inner is 130cm high so hanging it from the DPTE results in some slack in the mesh unless you take measures to snug the top of the inner cone into the DPTE. This can be done but is a bit of a PITA. Of course, if you pitch the fly at 135 cm there is no problem.

LG has a price sheet with various versions of their inners with solid breathable fabric. They’ll send it to you if you ask.

For long, cold, nights in the winter, I prefer a solid-fabric inner tent. Khufu or otherwise. I have a solid-fabric (1.1 oz nylon) 2/3 Khufu inner. I don’t fool around with the double pole thingy, it’s too fiddly. I’m fine sleeping to the side of the pole and letting my sleeping bag touch the sides/end. Not a huge deal for me.

Thanks for your replies! How do you manage tip down inside the shelter, rubber bung, half a tennis ball type of thing?

Ryan is that the solid inner with mesh door? Or all solid?

Unfortunately yoki tells me that the que for shipping leads are end of Feb.

I’m finding using the DPTE is only way I can make sure I don’t end up with that one flat corner I always get using single pole. I need to do more  practice pitching, even though this isn’t my first mid, and always seem to have same problem.

My preference is the simplicity of a single pole, but do love the space of the DPTE, just not the faff.

I think that MLD’s style of inner construction – shorter peak, no cat cuts, so that it can hang from the DPTE – is better if using two poles; more margin for pitch height variations, etc. Having two peak cones (one inner, one fly) really works best with a single pole inside. I’ve used bits of soft wood lying around for basing the tip of a pole. If the wood is just a little bit punky you can seat the tip into the wood securely. If the other side of the wood has bark on, there is still engouh structure and some insurance if the tip is driven down. Rocks work well, but I’m always a bit worried the tip might slip off the rock, though that’s never happened. I think Ryan’s weathered some big storms in his Khufu and probably has a better way.

Regarding having one flat corner. I’m not nearly as experienced as some but here’s what I came up with and it seems to help. I got a piece of cord long enough, with knotted loops, to reach across the diagonal of the shelter. I then tied a simple loop at the ‘end’, a second at the length of the short side, a third the length of the long side, and the final the length of the diagonal. this cord serves the dual purpose of a top loop tie out for my MLD duomid for inclement weather

When I’m picking a spot for a pitch and laying it out I drop stakes at the 4 corners, adjust as necessary on both lengths and then the diagonals which must match to get the layout ‘square” (4 90 degree corners and not trapezoidal), then set/stake the 4 corners, the pole and presto.

Saves time fiddling. In fact it helps things go pretty fast and also you can discover if the space is too tight before getting too far along. The cord weighs a few grams and has a useful purpose as a top guyline if your shelter has a top loop.

You may also need to tweak your ‘measuring’ cord loops a little to adjust for the position of the stakes in the shelter’s loops (the ends will be longer with the stake loops than the length of the fabric sides) or for a higher pitch, higher side levels in gentle weather but since you should be starting from a true rectangle this should be relatively easy.

I think that sometimes you get some variation in the level of the footprint and even if the part of it you plan to sleep on is level this can throw off the appearance of the pitch a little, flatten out one corner. Even with 4 90 degree corners the shelter can be a little off because the bottom plane is tilted. 2 or 3 inches over 115 or so may seem really level for sleeping but it’ll throw off the ‘balance’ of your pitch.

Thanks stumphges I don’t camp near forests just in the mountains and won’t rely on finding suitable stone. Will find something in the shed. Yes I agree with you about  mld being more suitable for DPTE type gadgets.

Thanks Obx I will read over that again and get a better understanding and better picture of what your saying with the cord.

I normally use a fixed-length trekking pole and a short carbon fiber pole jack so don’t have any issues with the pole tip.

Yes, that’s a solid fabric door inside the mesh door.

Thanks Ryan.

Half inner looks straight forward. Pitch the outer with pole, hang inner to loop on outer. Pole will be outside inner.

How do you go about it with the other choice inners? Is it easy enough, or can be difficult in windy conditions?