Let’s got out for a one week winter camp this (COVID 19) year

Well Eric it sounds like you need a Pulk, or maybe a snow mobile with trailer to

carry all those goodies.  Do you have a hot tent too ?  With woodstove ?

Larry S

Regarding that menu:  I want to know what your pack weighs going in and what you weight going out. :-)

I love winter camping. The wilderness effectively expands to within a mile or so of any road as long as you stay away from snowmobile areas, there are very few people, it’s quiet, it’s clean, you don’t have to worry about finding water. You carry some extra weight for cold-weather gear but you don’t have to go very far to get away from everything and find your own space.

And if you go in with telemark or AT gear you can ski freshies all day. I greatly prefer skis with climbing skins over snowshoes except in the bushiest areas. Much faster, doesn’t hurt my hips from hiking with my feet spread, the skis make great snow stakes, and after you get up something you can strip off the skins and blast down.  Whee!

Todd & Larry,

I think my pack will weigh about 35 pounds, maybe 37 if I carry the SCARP 2 tent. It’s a Deuter Air Contact Lite 60 +10 at 4 lbs. 6 oz. big but not real heavy.

The fruitcake and raw sausage will be the heaviest, other than 1 liter of water going in. No bears in our mountains, just mountain lions. The food should be fairly safe hung in a steel mesh bag.

My plastic Scarps T3 boots and Atomic TM 22 skis W/ climbing skins will be the really heavy items. I’ll be slow but steady. Done it before.

What’s your daily activity look like?  Exploring on skiis?  Hows the bag gonna dry out?  Most I’ve been out was three nights one Easter with a group.

Duane

Duane,

Good questions.

DAILY ACTIVITY: Yep, exploring on skis in the drain I’m camped in. Using my monocular to observe wildlife and generally puttering about the woods with my camera looking for photos.

DRYING MY DOWN BAG: It likely won’t be cold enough use a VBL so I’ll use drape my opened -20 F. winter bag on a low limb or blowdown. The desert high mountains are fairly dry when it’s not snowing. Alternatively I may take my 20 F. WM down bag with a synthetic Thermarest topper to both increase the R value of my bag and absorb condensed body vapor. The weight of either system will be about the same. I’m using an REI FLASH All Season R 5.3 insulated air mattress. Good to -15 F. in my tent WITH my -20 F. bag in my experience.

Sounds good.  Going solo, I have a hard time doing anything, lately I just leave home late, enough time to hike an hour or so to a spot, setup, walk around a little, them fix dinner.  Last bp I did with friends was almost two years ago west of Lake Tahoe for a couple nights snow camping.

Duane

@ Eric
When snow camping, I like a meal of appetizer, soup, entree (or two), followed by tea and dessert. Some of my fellow snow campers like to bring out the brandy and wine but I think I need to abstain to insure I can actually sleep the 9 plus hours in the dark.

Ideas for entrees include anything from MaryJanes backpacker line augmented with bacon, hydrated jerky, or precooked sausage (ex Bruce Aidells).  With some real bacon and some added Nestle Nido and potato flakes, Mary Janes potatoe soap can become a feast for a king. https://shop.maryjanesfarm.org/Backpacking-Meals

I have also adapted many of Mike Clelland’s recipes which were originally published on BPL  (I think), which, while involving some prep at home were very good in the snow kitchn. His angel hair pasta with basil garlic pesto comes to mind.

Bruce, Thanks for the tips. I DO like the Mary Jane Farms potato soup and most of her other stuff because it is low in sodium – unlike the Mountain House salt bombs.

My highest sodium backpacking food is  COSTCO beef jerky B/C it too is “relatively”low in sodium.

BTW,  If you drink tea after diner you’d be getting up at 3:30 or so for a “tea pee”, no?

This is one of my favorite things to do. Settle into a nice winter camp and explore day skis from there.

I’m hoping to do this high up in Rocky Mountain National Park, and I’d *really* like to ski, ice climb, and even ice fish!

Yep, gonna need a pulk…

Did you go???? Would love to hear about it..

Still waiting for ANY snow in our Spring Mountains northwest of the’Vegas valley.

Hoping, nay, praying  for January snow.

A neighbor who works for the County Road Department said up the Laporte Road where they turn around had 10″ of snow.  FS roads here are icy.  Went bping last night and had to walk the road side of the FS roads where traction was best.  Icier this AM with the fog.  Temp this morning was a mild 27- 28F.

Duane

Siblings who still live in upstate NY say they’ve had around 2.5 ft. of snow since yesterday, and it’s still snowing.

Hey Eric—I just got back from an 18 day winter trip (returned Dec 5) in TN/NC mountains and actually got hit by a freakish 12F cold snap with 4 to 16 inches of snow (16 being drifts on ridgetop)—see report here—

Cold morning on Slickrock Creek in NC.  Always hang out your sleeping bag in the morning, boys.

I went in with one food load and only used two hot-meal food items—Old fashioned oatmeal and vegan mac and cheese.  I carried 6 or 7 lbs of Oatmeal and it became my primary cooked meal—dinner and breakfast.  I augmented it with dried fruit like cherries, blueberries and pineapple and olive oil and honey and ample peanut butter/almond butter and Bob’s Red Mill vanilla protein powder.  I never get tired of oats.

Full report here—

https://tipiwalter.smugmug.com/Backpack-2020-Trips-202-/18-Days-in-a-December-Blizzard/

We went snowshoeing for almost a week right before Christmas.

UPDATE: No trip yet B/C no snow at 9,000 ft.! Our drought here in southern Nevada continues. :o(

Walter, that trip ended up being a true winter trip. You really got “lucky” with that storm. But your tent was well suited to the conditions, as was your other gear and especially your years of experience. All that makes it a fun trip instead of a “retreat from Moscow” type hike out.

Congrats Manfred on those great conditions and on the endurance to be able to use snowshoes instead of skis. I detest using my MSR Lightning Ascent ‘shoes even thoughI know they are among the best available. Skis will win out with me every time.

Eric,

I’m afraid I would be a klutz on skis and spend more time laying in the snow than moving forward. Snowshoes on the other hand …

We just spent the first three days of the year in your neck of the woods, Nevada  – snowshoeing along the Tahoe Rim Trail.

As you can see the snow was deep enough …

… and the views of Lake Tahoe were fantastic

Nice to read about and see some cool pics of a winter adventure! I’m chomping at the bit to get out and get some winter backpacking done. I made all kinds of plans and even bought a new winter bag a few months ago but then I and my family all got COVID. It’s been almost two months since I caught it and I am just now getting back outside a few times a week for short hikes in the snow. Not a fun way to spend winter!