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Layering down quilt over synthetic?

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Luke Schmidt BPL Member
PostedAug 26, 2016 at 5:18 pm

I just moved to Idaho Falls so the Grand Tetons are my new backyard.

I’m looking for a sleeping system that can take me into the 0-10 range this fall. I have a EE Enigma 30 degree quilt and a very old/beat up BPL quilt, it’s the UL 240 synthetic quilt.

My question is this. Has anyone tried down on top of synthetic? I know it’s better to put synthetic on top but the synthetic quilt is too small for that to work well. The EE quilt uses water resistant down which has seemed to work so far. Thoughts?

I’d prefer not to spend money on a new quilt but if I have to I’ll need to order it soon or it probably won’t be ready before it gets cold.

Jerry Adams BPL Member
PostedAug 26, 2016 at 6:01 pm

If down is on the outside, it will get compressed less which is good

if you’re 0-10 F, water evaporating from your body, might migrate through your insulation and encounter the point where it’s 32 F inside the down layer, and then freeze there

That would be more of a problem on multi day trips

Jerry Adams BPL Member
PostedAug 26, 2016 at 6:02 pm

you could try it, weigh both layers, before and after, to see if water is accumulating

Luke Schmidt BPL Member
PostedAug 26, 2016 at 6:33 pm

Yeah  I’m aware of the few point issue. I’ll be doing weekend only trips for the fall so it only has to work for one night. Looks like I might have to be the guinea pig on this one.

todd BPL Member
PostedAug 26, 2016 at 9:31 pm

Just a point on fit:

Won’t the BPL quilt  be too tight and compress the down?  Especially in the footbox?

Either way, the water-resistance of the down should work as advertised – so try it out when you can and let us know!

James holden BPL Member
PostedAug 27, 2016 at 8:26 am

Youll find that the down will get somewhat damp

how damp it gets depends on the conditions, but over several days this can be a serious issue if you dont dry it out

with DWR down this might be less so … Who knows

you can order the materials and make yr own synth quilt for ~ 60 dollahz

;)

PostedAug 27, 2016 at 10:17 pm

“I’ll be doing weekend only trips for the fall so it only has to work for one night.”

Not worth worrying over then, IMO. I used a 50F quilt inside my 30F one(the two together weigh less than my EN 10F bag) without issue for an overnighter last year when it was 4F both before bed and in the morning, and could feasibly have gone lower during the night.
Same reason as you-both “wide” sizes with Hyperdry 850 down, but my 50F is shorter and narrower than my Katabatic 30F, which attaches to my pad, so using the 50 on top would not have worked as well. Surely not an issue at those temps for an average sleeper(for whom that system would likely be marginal, at best), but I actually got a little too warm for awhile, and it was nice being able to push the 50F to the side while still cocooned in the Palisade.
I used mine for a pillow that night, but at those temps you should have a warm puffy along, too, and be ok at 0-10F even if your quilts aren’t quite up to the task.
Have fun experimenting!

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